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BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 13. 2013 06:21
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SeaShadow24
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IF YOU ARE NOT ONE, DONT BE...I WAS A BW BEFORE BUT I CONVERTED MY CV TO FW CV...DONT BE A SUCKER..AND ACCEPT REALITY
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 29. 2013 08:33
FalleNStaR
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Originally Posted by myg0t1
i dont play for anyone elses exp or amusement other than mine....
It is not my job to scout for you anymore than it is your job to be my meatshield/roflstomp the enemy.
BWs can be very effective even against the best of FWs...proof is given via emu87...
Launching planes and setting a fighter screen isnt my idea of fun....pissing the enemy team off after blowing up 2 BB6s while the FW scratches their head wondering how the BW got thru is...
BW= challenging and exciting to play
FW= easy way out, and little to no effor required to win
This.
I have T4 FW setups. I enjoy BW/TBW much more. I play the game for my enjoyment now. Not some hack BB player's experience. BW/TBW dont make or break the battle, the auto-split does.
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 29. 2013 22:32
jotabe
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i love reading this forum...
on this everyone its a Master Yoda of BW and even FW...
the fact is that since i've got my US CV5 (FW) i have not been sinked by enemy Bombers, not even once... (of course i'm not considering those final rush times when you as cv face an entire pack of BBs and youre only praying for your vets not to be killed).
Maybe the tactic of "attacking the CV on the very beginning of the battle" can work against a CV3 but any skilled FW player in a "big CV" will survive the attack, find your location and fightercamp your BW ass the entire map. And that if you get "lucky" to even touch the enemy CV... any experienced CV player will look the middle of the map searching for enemy bomber sq. specially on the first 2 minutes of the map
I know that FW can be a little boring... in fact it is, specially when you do not face an enemy FW CV. (lets be honest, chasing bombers its not like a challenge or anything like it). I also like more to play with bombers (with torp Bombers in fact) its just more fun... you just have to control your sq, get yourself away from enemy ftrs and bomb whatever target suits you. Its fun, it takes "manual" skill to DB or TB properly, but...
No BW CV its a winning machine like a FW is, in fact the bigger CV the bigger unbalance for your team. your team can live with a CV3 or ECV BW, they might even help more compared to a Tier2 / local Fighter "FW" CV3. but from CV4 on... you are not helping your team at all. Every time i see on my team a IJN PCV BW i know that i will most probably lose the battle, because in front there will be a US/KM FW that will deny teir bombers and will camp above all the BBs, so nobody will be able to even launch a scout.
My final conclusion after all the crap i just wrote is: If you like to play BW or TBW fine! go with it and be happy, but please don't use any CV above ECV to do it on GB. yeah, you'll have to deal with 7 pilots, 8 planes launch and the space its not so much, but its the best way to keep a decent balance for your team. Leave the PCV BW for HA (in fact when i want to play TBW i could use UK PCV but i never get it out, i just go with UK ECV, even with 100+ TB and i'm planning to do the same thing with my IJN BW CV).
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 30. 2013 06:30
myg0t1
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Originally Posted by jotabe
My final conclusion after all the crap i just wrote is...
I am glad you pointed out the errors and inconsitencies with your post. BW=still have a feasible chance of inflicting damage to the enemy team/winning the game FW=oh dear god I hope i shoot their scouts and run away fast enough to delay the inevitable... you=put too much faith in your teams BB play, and are nothing more than a sophisticated leecher as a FW me=have to use my brain to work tactically and maneuver around your pesky little fighter screens
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 30. 2013 08:49
Stealth001
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Originally Posted by Pyrofiend
Originally Posted by Stealth001
BUT, YES, if you are going BW to do massive damage you should first target critical ships being those in this order:
1) Every CV in the oposing team, specialy other BWs and TBWs, sort by level from the higher to the lower.
2) BB6s, 5s and AAW and ASW ships.
3) BB4s and 3s.
4) any remaining ship in the map.
If the enemy doesnt have CVs, they cant sustain vision, that meaning you can sustain vision for your team, meaning your BBs wont be blind and wont cry like they most of the time do.
IF you target first the BBs and for the end of the battle, the CVs, you will most likely fail like a BW/TBW CV, since the enemy will still have vision and your planes WILL be shot down.
Other thing, if you are a BW CV, dont waste a 16 bomber wave in fast movers (FFs DDs and some CLs), doesnt help your team if you do that.
Give me one reason why any of this is credible.
Everything is credible. 1) Sink every CV. Any CV with a 50% DB/FP - TB/FP load up and comon sence will want to sink the FW or the BW first, since is the priority to keep safe the BBs and CVs from them. Any BW with comon sence will want to sink the FW first, since is priority to secure vision over the enemy. Any CV might not be a threat for you, but it is for your complete team. FWs can/will camp your BWs (Denied Bombing runs), can/will camp your BBs (Denied scouting), can/will camp your FW CV if thisone results to be outclassed. Comclusion, if your team has no planes in 1 sector (be it north, south or middle), you will be forced to go help that sector weakening your primary zone of battle. If you dont help, doesnt matter, you will that sector anyways. 2) BB6s and 5s, AAW and ASW. BB6s and 5s can be stoped if the right sight is given (Concecuence of the enemy team not having enough CVs to counter your team CVs) Any noob with comon sence can stop a QV or a Lion 2 if he uses APs on those targets instead of APing the last 3 ships in the game like most do. Kaisers and H44s, Rush them, low angles are not their strog points. Many times ive shot an H44 and he instantly turned 180 degress and retreated from that sector trying to counter me but he shot either to high or to low to even splash damage me. AAW and ASW ships, makes every ships job easier to complete. No ASW = no HH/PHH/DC = SS deals more damage, distracting the enemy, allowing to your teams ships to sink them faster. No AAW makes scouting more easier for CVs AND BBs, the less sea to air resistance the more vision your team will have. Almost no BB uses AA or HH, so this ships come along with BB6s and 5s in the list. 3) BB4s and 3s. Even if they are mid-class in GB, they are a threat in the close encounter battles, just to say, "secondary battles" inside the same GB. These ships are usualy sunken first do to mid range guns, low DPs and shell magnets (AKA targets of oportunity). 4) Any remaining ship in the field. Got some spare bombs and bobmers? got spare torps and torpers? are you greedy enough for more damage dealt? go hunt the rest of the DD/FF and Sneaky SS. Otherwise, simply retreat. Was that good reason for you?
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 30. 2013 14:00
InsaneMind
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LOL everyone is a PRO in this game.
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 30. 2013 17:45
DeathAddict
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Originally Posted by Pyrofiend
Rule #1 of BWing:
1) Bomb that which best increases your chances to win. Doesn't matter what ship it is. (There is no set order of what to bomb is what I'm saying)
Let's not forget it only takes a CV with a couple of brain cells to screw over your beautiful 8 Bomber CV set-up
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
04. 30. 2013 18:13
myg0t1
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Originally Posted by DeathAddict
Originally Posted by Pyrofiend
Rule #1 of BWing:
1) Bomb that which best increases your chances to win. Doesn't matter what ship it is. (There is no set order of what to bomb is what I'm saying)
Let's not forget it only takes a CV with a couple of brain cells to screw over your beautiful 8 Bomber CV set-up
which are sadly few and far between these days
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
05. 01. 2013 05:07
Rick5000
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Why not be both... My CV has 5 fp's and 2 db's, easy as that.
Works fine.
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
05. 01. 2013 08:05
Stealth001
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Originally Posted by Pyrofiend
Credible information comes from credible sources. Can you prove that you are a credible source?
How often do you play a BW CV?
In what battle modes? Only shared exp?
Do you win?
Do you get flamed often for being a BW?
How often do you leave the South to die and go North and/or camp at spawn?
It's obvious to me just by reading your post that you are inexperienced at BWing or you just outright lose most of your battles in one. Before you try to teach people, I hope you know how to do it yourself.
Rule #1 of BWing:
1) Bomb that which best increases your chances to win. Doesn't matter what ship it is. (There is no set order of what to bomb is what I'm saying)
Are you a credible source? I played BW for 2 months straight, 5 DBs 1 FP set up, each time i tryed to bomb the highest BB in the oposing team, i got shot by AAs and/or fighters, being the fighters the most comon counters for my bombers. So the enemy CVs was my primary target. As soon as i started applying this i was wining 1 of 2 battles i made, depending always on how much our north could sustain a battle with the oposing team and if south had enough sight to keep up, sight was more easy to give on the sector the enemy CV was out of battle, and bombing was more likely to end in success due to the lack of fighter cover over enemy lines (Its amazing the number of enemy planes that are reduced when the first CV goes out of battle, specialy if its a FW) I only applied this to GB since i didnt have the lvl for WaW and by the time i had the lvl i changed my BW for a FW set up, since the BW was giving expirience but i dont care about expirience, i like FW more than BW. Being a CV makes you the target for every fail in the game, specialy if you are launching mainly bombers/torpers. "You noob BW, learn to play" "Useless BW left us blind" Etc...Etc... I play south most of my time when i use the CV, unless there is a higher CV to go south. I dont ususaly sapwn-camp since that makes you a perfect first bobmer wave target, usualy there are no AAs or fighters runing in the middle of the map, so its a safe path for bobmers most of the time. If i win? Yeah, i dont know, i dont care about wining, i play this to have fun, not to win and prove myself expecting someone says "great job dude! You are an autowin for the team that has you" Inexpirienced... I wont get a jog to say i gain expirience by playing a game but i have enough of it to say sink the CVs first, makes the game easier to win. Ive been playing in my BB and ive seen a few BWs apply what i posted, my teams didnt have a chance when our lvl 100+ CVs was sunken in the first 3 minutes of battle. Try it out sometimes, might surprise you what you can achieve by following this. Obviusly, avoid Fighters.
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Re : BW ARE ONLY FOR EXTRAORDINAVY BRIGHT TACTICIAN PLAYERS
05. 01. 2013 09:01
Pusit
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Originally Posted by SeaShadow24
GOOD... GO BW.. AND SERVE US (FW) DINNER :P
Lol SeaShadow you were a SN BW CV.
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