It's not really my habit anymore to do these kinds of debates, but yeah, just saying.

@Stealth: Well, I saw Pyro bomb in his MN BW.
And as for me, I did nothing in my entire NF life but torpedo bomb. So I assume we are somewhat.. valid sources.

Anyone who calls bw bad has clearly never played one seriously

BW's can make alot of difference in the damage output of a team, as well as strategics. They can pick off important targets, take out a CV before a BB thinks about getting in range, and can take a loss and turn it into a win just as easily as a FW. The main failure from BW CVs are their dependancy on auto-bombing. This is where you see the total fail drops. Instead of bashing them, try and support them, especially if you play as a FW. We are on the brink of a change in CV play, and it is unstoppable. So the best thing to do is roll with the tide because as a CV player, if I'm going to get harrassed for a loss, I might as well enjoy it by sending as many enemies as I can to Vallhalla. You CV bashers brought it on, so take your medicine like good boys. ;P

For me, personally, calling BW bad bcoz I see BW that cannot properly hit the targets, while sacrificing air defence and team vision. And yes I don't have lv120 scouts.

Why always blame the BW CVs for losing vision? I use a lvl 65 scout and I don't have problems regarding having map vision.

Other BB's have scout but is not launching any.

Some just let their scouts fly and feed it to enemy AA.

You need to be aware where you send your scout so you can avoid it getting killed.

I can even send a scout even if fighter camped since some CVs just let their fighters fly around creating a space for me to send my scout to escape.

If you don't have vision, retreat and send a scout. Not rush into unknown territory and DIE.

Maybe everybody has forgotten the meaning of MMORTS.

what does Real Time Strategy mean?


Oh this is the "TIPS and TACTICS" section, but this thread looks like we are discussing.

I leave my message above as my TIP for new players since its the TACTIC I use. hehehe! 

It's incorrect.

You target ships in the order of how threatening they are to your team. Say there's a retarded BW that keeps on missing auto DB and a pro QV with it. By that list, he's telling me to ignore the pro QV and keep bombing the CV.

By the time that CV died, your teammates ceased to exist.

There's a reason why you can look to your enemy team composition, do you? Though at times I fail to look at that too (I'm too sleepy most of the times I played this game). In every decision you make there's a weighing loss that goes with it. But make sure that whatever the output you produce is worth equal, or even better more than what was lost. At least, this is my bombing doctrine.

Well, most BW players are not doing it correctly
Bomber Whore should only be used when your team has air superiority. If your team is fighter camped by opponent, your bombers will always be shot down and you can't make any attack. And your team has no vision-->your team will fail. When your team can fully control the sky, has enough vision, and your opponent team is blind, it's good time to launch bombers.

Bomber Whore should only be used when you have fighters to clear the way in front of bombers, or escort bombers with fighters. If you don't, sometimes 1-2 enemy fighters can eat your whole squadron of 12 bombers. If your bomber-fighter escort squadron encounter some strong enemy fighters which completely beat yours, try to attract enemy fire with your fighters and create chance of survival for bombers.

Also if you go bomber whore, be sure to bomb high level, fighter whore CV first, instead of bombing BBs first, unless it's in a energency--such as a BB is chasing you and no friendly BB is around.
Taking down enemy high level CV in such a fast and suprising manner can greatly increase your team's air superiority since enemy team loses a big source of planes. Sometimes your opponent team may have only 1 FW PCV/CV6 + 2-3 CV1/CV2/BW CV, and if you can surprisingly take down that PCV/CV6 with bombers, it may directly result in your team's win (your opponent loses all vision).

Even if you go BW, you must load at least 2 waves of fighters on carrier. A CV with zero fighter = fail ---- can't even protect yourself; 1 squadron of enemy bombers may easily kill you (don't rely on AA ships, they frequently miss, and very often they are not around when bombers are incoming). If you are low level BW, you should at least load some locals to prevent getting instantly bombed.

The typical bomber whore sequence:
launch fighters to clear the way->
launch bombers to bomb CV, with fighter escort ->
first wave of fighters low fuel now, launch 2nd wave of fighters->
evaluate your team's situation, if your team needs vision/fighter camped/enemy bombers incoming, launch more fighters to maintain air superiority. If your team still controls the air, launch 2nd wave of bombers->
1st wave of bombers should be back now (if they stilll survive). repeat previous step