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  • Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 21. 2015 14:10


BlubbBlubb

My BO guideline length is 3118. 
Harbor says Kaiser range is 3117
That's both like it was before the patch.

But doing a south to north testshot (HE or AP) I cannot reach the end of my guideline by far!
And that is not like before. 

Fix Kaiser range please, otherwise this ship makes no sense at all.

 

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 23. 2015 07:53


yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 23. 2015 09:12


EricIdle

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.

You could try to lend some credibility to your assertion by providing screenshots.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 23. 2015 09:39


nyerkovic

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.



Better spread tends to mess up with range perception. 

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 23. 2015 10:18


normpearii

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.


You shouldn't set your guidelines to where the shell's max jump is.

You should set them to where the shells normally land. 

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 25. 2015 05:35


yjamamoto

Originally Posted by normpearii

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.


You shouldn't set your guidelines to where the shell's max jump is.

You should set them to where the shells normally land. 

 

You made a premise without knowing how I setup my guigelines. So that lead to a point you assume something thats not corresponding with the facts.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 25. 2015 05:48


yjamamoto

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.

You could try to lend some credibility to your assertion by providing screenshots.

 

Unfortunately I dont make any screenshots of every trait just in case something could ever change and I have to prove it.

In the aftermath things usually can be manipulated and therefore most likely cant spend an adequate amount of credibility.

What I can say is that I setup the guidelines just a few days before the patch in view of an upcoming Harbor-Defence. When testing after the patch I had a strong impression that the shellinbound E>W was reduced. I had to lower the BO´s recruits by 18 - if I remember correctly.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 25. 2015 06:14


locefer

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.

You could try to lend some credibility to your assertion by providing screenshots.

 

Unfortunately I dont make any screenshots of every trait just in case something could ever change and I have to prove it.

In the aftermath things usually can be manipulated and therefore most likely cant spend an adequate amount of credibility.

What I can say is that I setup the guidelines just a few days before the patch in view of an upcoming Harbor-Defence. When testing after the patch I had a strong impression that the shellinbound E>W was reduced. I had to lower the BO´s recruits by 18 - if I remember correctly.

 

BO guidlines can be changed when your BO gain experts or lost experts/vets/rokies  now i think what happens to your BO is you use it in other small ship BB5 below specially AA ship that gain experts fast and your BO gain experts without you noticing and i dont believe you that the guidlines was changed after the patch cuz if it does how come my guidlines are not change a bit?

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 25. 2015 07:54


yjamamoto

Originally Posted by locefer

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by yjamamoto

I recently setup the guidelines for the Kaiser right before the patch.

After testing the range by firing E>W I would confirm, that the range has been decreased rather obvious.

You could try to lend some credibility to your assertion by providing screenshots.

 

Unfortunately I dont make any screenshots of every trait just in case something could ever change and I have to prove it.

In the aftermath things usually can be manipulated and therefore most likely cant spend an adequate amount of credibility.

What I can say is that I setup the guidelines just a few days before the patch in view of an upcoming Harbor-Defence. When testing after the patch I had a strong impression that the shellinbound E>W was reduced. I had to lower the BO´s recruits by 18 - if I remember correctly.

 

BO guidlines can be changed when your BO gain experts or lost experts/vets/rokies  now i think what happens to your BO is you use it in other small ship BB5 below specially AA ship that gain experts fast and your BO gain experts without you noticing and i dont believe you that the guidlines was changed after the patch cuz if it does how come my guidlines are not change a bit?

 

Negative, mate! In the meantime this BO wasnt in use on any ship at all. He was just prepared in case I need the Kaiser, what finally didnt happen.

But on the other hand I could presume, that you might used your BO, what makes you lead to your conclusion?

Another explanation could be that some use to adjust their guidlines more accurately than others?

When summarizing the thread it seems that people have different points of view about that subject. There are players who feel there was a reduction, while others, and concerning the present postings its the majority, believe there werent any changes.

Finally the most important thing is, that the conditions are equal for everybody. The DEVs may got precise data and check it out onesmore.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 25. 2015 15:19


richardphat

Range is still the same, the average landing shots have not been changed despite the spread buff.

Only the short landing and forward jump has been drastically reduced. You still can have those range, but the probability is less.

You cannot define kaiser range, solely basing on the guideline/impression/couple of shells  because you are missing several vital points. Those are the short landing and all other variable such as statistic and probability.

Mod Edit: Removed unnecessary addition.

  • Re : Kaiser range seems to be broken

    01. 26. 2015 06:14


yjamamoto

Originally Posted by richardphat

...

You cannot define kaiser range, solely basing on the guideline/impression/couple of shells  because you are missing several vital points. Those are the short landing and all other variable such as statistic and probability.

...

 

Where did you see a definition?

And as you plainly can see, I very well can describe my impressions basing on those observations I made, which means I have to agree with the author of the thread.

 

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