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  • KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 11:40


Piombo

Ok this is basicly a rant that makes sense .

 

whats the point of have KM as the #1 Nation for Range when SN BB4 and RM BB4 and 5 can range /out range the H39 and H44 this is just rediculous

 

Germany
PRO
CONTRA
  • The final guns of each stage outrange the guns of other nations in that stage
  • Bonus to Engineers (speed!)
  • Great Anti-Aircraft (AA) guns
  • Guns and Ships are available a bit later (higher level)
  • Guns of each stage do relativeliy little damage compared to other nations (influenced by the fact that LightHE ammo is the best choice for Germans (range!))
  • Heavy, expensive armor
  • Monotone gameplay
Gameplay Style

Hit and Run! Lack of sheer brute force (damage per shell, armor efficiency) makes this (the combination of speed and range) the only way you can play with German ships. Use your great AA guns to shoot down enemy scouts to make this easier!

 

this has been fully down played with the release of SN and RM and negated all the Pros to the KM line WTF either Buff KM or finish Nerfing/fixing SN and RM the stupidity of these new nations has has altered the stats of the origanal nations

 

Japan
PRO
CONTRA
  • Best ship-mounted torpedoes in the game
  • Best torpedo-ships in the game
  • Big variety of CVs
  • Best AA Guns at high levels
  • Armor is not very effective
  • Very bad Support Crews
  • Bad AA at low and medium levels
Gameplay Style

You have much variety! Either go play with a good gun-based DD, or use a torp-only DD (so called "Torp Whore (TW)"), or use some of the good guns on CL/CA+!



UNITED KINGDOM
PRO
CONTRA
  • Best damage per shell
  • Best armor
  • Bonus on Repairers/Restorers
  • Gain an additional Slot for Support Sailors aboard a ship compared to most other Nations at a certain stage
  • Armor is expensive
  • Not all ships can be properly armored
Gameplay Style

Brute Force! You can apply excessive amounts of great armor on your ship (so called "Armor Whoring") and have guns that deal a big punch. But watch out! Do not trade too many sailors for armor, because only if you keep full sailors you will have enough experts later on!



UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
PRO
CONTRA
  • Great CVs
  • Good AA Aiming System (you see lines which indicated the height you are shooting at)
  • Hard hitting Guns and slim ship designs at BB stage
  • Well-balanced overall
  • Being "balanced" is also a contra: The Guns have no range advantage over all others at any stage
Gameplay Style

You have much variety, similar to Japan! Some of your DDs are good for torp-whoring, other for guns. Guns and ships are well-balanced overall.

 

 

so

 whats the Pros and Cons to the New Nations none there OP by bad testing/balancing

 

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 07:32


NIborGER

Originally Posted by richardphat

You wanted and insist a super low angle gun, there you have it. Don't complain about the problem.

lol

Strain the truth and keep insisting it was all my doing that we have these 25degrees guns. The only thing i did was to remind u that we simply werent allowed to increase angle while u were working on your 30degree proposual. If u would have been focused so much on that we would have been able to iron out some hugh flaws.

I couldnt do such things since i had to learn for some exams.

But in general it pisses me off that so many people are complaining about RM, MN, SN etc. but havent shown up on testserver once and that SDE gave us such a hughly broken nation. Normally all balancing showed be done by them and testserver should be only for cummunity based tweaks and not responsible for all balancing.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 07:42


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by NIborGER

But in general it pisses me off that so many people are complaining about RM, MN, SN etc. but havent shown up on testserver once and that SDE gave us such a hughly broken nation. Normally all balancing showed be done by them and testserver should be only for cummunity based tweaks and not responsible for all balancing.

I wonder what other product is developed and fixed by paying customers rather then the company that is making money off of it. Something you have to understand Niborger is that not everyone as the time to show up and spend that much time ion the test server to fix SDE's mistakes. I work 6 days a week sometimes 10-12 hours a day. Does that mean I shouldnt expect SDE to release a good product without having to spend all of my remaining free time fixing it for them? Does that mean I cannot complain about poorly implamented patches and content? Lets get real for a minute...

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 07:54


NIborGER

Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by NIborGER

But in general it pisses me off that so many people are complaining about RM, MN, SN etc. but havent shown up on testserver once and that SDE gave us such a hughly broken nation. Normally all balancing showed be done by them and testserver should be only for cummunity based tweaks and not responsible for all balancing.

I wonder what other product is developed and fixed by paying customers rather then the company that is making money off of it. Something you have to understand Niborger is that not everyone as the time to show up and spend that much time ion the test server to fix SDE's mistakes. I work 6 days a week sometimes 10-12 hours a day. Does that mean I shouldnt expect SDE to release a good product without having to spend all of my remaining free time fixing it for them? Does that mean I cannot complain about poorly implamented patches and content? Lets get real for a minute...

During that time i hadnt much time too, but spend here and there 1 or 2 hours on testserver to take a look at RM. I could have spend my time another way but i wanted to help that italy gets at least a bit balancing. And now i a responsible that its so broken?

 

Regarding your last 3 sentences: i was just referring to that some players make those players responsible who spend some free time to help fixing it. U can complain about SDE as much as u like. Read the last sentence of what u quoted.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 08:37


mav2kfk
Originally Posted by Piombo

Originally Posted by testarossa

RM BB4 has iowa range i believe.

RM BB5 doesnt have H44 range i believe 


the biggest issue ive seen wth RM is it has way to much range for their shell dmg for a  Rushing Nation  seeing how the angle 20 n 25 BB guns with litte to no hang time Laser guns with signifigent reload and for ppl to say it all good its not OP its under powered or any thing else just want to keep it as it is just to exploit their unbalanced ships like SN BB3 imp before they Nerffed it a bunch of BS  their BB4 n 5 i know better to beleave since ive been hit by the BB5 and sunk with only a few shells of the salvo to hit in two shots before as it barely came into my max range and the BB4 has ranged me just under my max angle in H44 and i know all the things there is to know about KM BBs lack of shell dmg is compensated by range  armor is compensated for Speed and giving some of the best AA possible o any nation so if any thing bring back the Beta H44 38000 DP with the 20.1" guns with the AW capable to 10' deck ect.



Is that 1 sentence? Are you fleetleader of which fleet? What did u say about bs? 3 answers?

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 11:34


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by NIborGER

Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by NIborGER

But in general it pisses me off that so many people are complaining about RM, MN, SN etc. but havent shown up on testserver once and that SDE gave us such a hughly broken nation. Normally all balancing showed be done by them and testserver should be only for cummunity based tweaks and not responsible for all balancing.

I wonder what other product is developed and fixed by paying customers rather then the company that is making money off of it. Something you have to understand Niborger is that not everyone as the time to show up and spend that much time ion the test server to fix SDE's mistakes. I work 6 days a week sometimes 10-12 hours a day. Does that mean I shouldnt expect SDE to release a good product without having to spend all of my remaining free time fixing it for them? Does that mean I cannot complain about poorly implamented patches and content? Lets get real for a minute...

During that time i hadnt much time too, but spend here and there 1 or 2 hours on testserver to take a look at RM. I could have spend my time another way but i wanted to help that italy gets at least a bit balancing. And now i a responsible that its so broken?

 

Regarding your last 3 sentences: i was just referring to that some players make those players responsible who spend some free time to help fixing it. U can complain about SDE as much as u like. Read the last sentence of what u quoted.

 

Ill put it to you this way Niborger. While I dont agree with everything you say regarding balance I wouldnt say you are to blame for Italy like some, thats just ignorant. The Italy release was very much like MN where there was little more time then to find major bugs.

What happened with SN however was a different matter, there was much more time given for that project but the people in charge were clueless and instead of listening to others when they pointed out the problems, excuses were given to justify the problems rather then trying to fix things.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 12:44


FalleNStaR

Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

 

I wonder what other product is developed and fixed by paying customers rather then the company that is making money off of it.

Speedballs, Hippy-flippin', Buisnessman's lunch, ... how ironic.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 16. 2012 12:48


FalleNStaR

Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

What happened with SN however was a different matter, there was much more time given for that project but the people in charge were clueless and instead of listening to others when they pointed out the problems, excuses were given to justify the problems rather then trying to fix things.

Power corrupts. 

making the cheat boat a BB4 is more inconspicuous. Yup, I'm saying it.

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