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[CITA = URRS]

1. He estado aquí desde la versión beta.

2. el límite se alcanzó en ese momento las flotas jugaron un HA con un promedio de 120-140 jugadores 

3. No me sorprendería, ya que la NF y el Gm actual para la comunidad latina discriminan y menos valor ... pero satisfacer sus necesidades sería el colmo de la pregunta

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1. LOL ... estado aquí desde la versión beta ... debe haber 10 millones de jugadores beta.


2. Mal. No fue sino hasta que Devildog comenzó el reclutamiento masivo de su primera flota fallida, las flotas empujaron a 120-140 jugadores en HA. La gran mayoría de las flotas jugaba HA con 35-50 jugadores. Flotas dominadas dominadas.

3. Si estuvo presente durante la versión beta y en los primeros días de la venta minorista de NFNA, sabría quién es realmente el actual gerente general. Sabría que era un respetado líder de la flota, y sabría que no discrimina a nadie. 


Olvidaste mencionar, traes de vuelta y todos los jugadores antiguos regresarán.

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What can I expect from someone who only walks in the forum ... looking at my post --- I discover here that you are my fan ...

that you criticize me in a GB ... since you spend saying that my game and my post are so useless ....

I remember that you are so bad, that you only cry in the GBs and you only know how to come to the forum to tell me things that I do not care about ...

As I told you before you are a sad Jedi that if you ask for yourself they will tell you that you do the same thing and we will do a collection so that you can uninstall the NF because the truth is how you play ... pretty bad

By the way, send my regards to your fleet ... or layers that your fleet is your alone jaajja

Meh, I agree with most of these points, except for 3.

1) APA should be allowed to win tiles again. I would rather see ships being allowed to leave the room. Most players would just dysconnect anyway. The border in HA serves little to no purpose really. Now it's just SS hunt or straight to the middle.

2) Ironically, I would bring back the anti-aircraft border in HAs again. Why was this removed anyway? Did I miss something? (I probably did ??)

3) The limit is there for a reason; reason being allowing smaller fleets to fight among themselves. What reason would BAMF have to remove this limit other than wanting to attack more? If you don't want to attack more, than the limit doesn't affect you, so it's safe for me to speculate that BAMF might just want to be able to break a few harbors for the LOL. I understand this game is meant to be competative, but let's not destroy small, noobs, starting out fleets from participating; even if it's minimal.

Removing the limit would allow fleets like BAMF to attack harbors they would have no intentions of mantaining other than attacking for the sake of harrasing smaller fleets. With this limit, competative fleets are forced to lose 1 week and sacrifice 1 harbor each time they want to attack a new one. This creates a small window of opportunity for smaller fleets to tryout playing HA and creates some inccentive due to the lower risk of being completely obliriated.

Just my thoughts.

1) I think almost all of us want APAs to be useful again. It adds an extra tactical and strategic dimension, gives even new players something they can do to contribute, and gives value to a ship that was wholly designed for HA and isn't that useful outside of its design. 
The only ones who have anything to lose are groups that rely heavily on subs to delay rooms. And seeing how much that annoys everyone else, I see no reason not to fix this.

2) I have nothing wrong with skytrains, and honestly would love to get to use them at least once, but I (intentionally) never learned how to exploit loopholes with them. Get rid of such exploits. If it can't be patched effectively, at least provide strictly enforced rules with severe consequences for both the fleet and player that gets caught abusing them. 

3) I'm sorry, but no. This is something that you always see people in larger and more powerful fleets arguing for, but what it really comes down to is that they are seeking something that benefits themselves, and not the game or community. They want to play more HA, and see this as the best way for them to get that. Most of the other reasoning given is nothing more than rationalizing - trying to make an argument for the arlready-intended conclusion whether than asking and answering the important questions.  
The current system exists to ensure some level of competition and to make the formation of a super-fleet pointless. This is better for the community as a whole and even for most of the fleets. Many of us have seen first hand what almost inevitably happens when such limits disappear, and that would just drive off even more players.

Now, what I might consider is an option to abandon a harbor in order to attack a different one, with the abandoned harbor going to horever manages to declare first (I'd actually want to see an AI defending fleet, but that's asking a bit much). But the current 2-harbor limit is as high as I'd go.