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  • 8CV to 6CV conclution

    04. 29. 2012 23:14


slsheero

is that any result that Cv# change to 6 for above 2 month?

i just feel the game getting bore

 

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 06. 2012 14:53


AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by jimmyawsome

I really don't no much about what it's like to play CV but that doesn't stop "some" people from commenting on SS when they don't know diddly squat, so here goes.

If I was playing CV, the first CLOWN that started barking orders to me about how he can't see this or he can't see that all the while the enemy scout circles overhead I would be hitting the escape button.  You see, Mr. BB decided that it is LESS humiliating to LOSE than to carry AA and since the ULTIMATE humiliation is to be sunk by a Submarine, Mr. BB likes to pack his T slots with PHH and block shot enough to cause your ears to ring.  Who cares if we lose, I got that pesky OP SS that SDE said would never be introduced into the game.  

If I was playing CV I would have a little note book with everyone who packs AA and everyone who packs PHH because the PHH are sitting ducks unless they are on a double date with a MOLTKE.

The only CV drivers I have respect for are the ones that send their fighters out to gobble up the enemy scouts right when they take off or not long after.  You know who you are.  When I see that it's GAME OVER for my side so I try to take as many with me as I can.



Not sure how this is related to the current discussion in any way. Please don't troll the thread. Also seems like I can access NF.Com again (for now). This thread is about the effectiveness of dropping the CV limit from 8 to 6.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 06. 2012 18:05


jimmyawsome

Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by jimmyawsome

I really don't no much about what it's like to play CV but that doesn't stop "some" people from commenting on SS when they don't know diddly squat, so here goes.

If I was playing CV, the first CLOWN that started barking orders to me about how he can't see this or he can't see that all the while the enemy scout circles overhead I would be hitting the escape button.  You see, Mr. BB decided that it is LESS humiliating to LOSE than to carry AA and since the ULTIMATE humiliation is to be sunk by a Submarine, Mr. BB likes to pack his T slots with PHH and block shot enough to cause your ears to ring.  Who cares if we lose, I got that pesky OP SS that SDE said would never be introduced into the game.  

If I was playing CV I would have a little note book with everyone who packs AA and everyone who packs PHH because the PHH are sitting ducks unless they are on a double date with a MOLTKE.

The only CV drivers I have respect for are the ones that send their fighters out to gobble up the enemy scouts right when they take off or not long after.  You know who you are.  When I see that it's GAME OVER for my side so I try to take as many with me as I can.



Not sure how this is related to the current discussion in any way. Please don't troll the thread. Also seems like I can access NF.Com again (for now). This thread is about the effectiveness of dropping the CV limit from 8 to 6.



You know what is so funny?  I comment in other peoples threads and I am trolling.  BUt they can't rip apart MY posts with the most vile, hatefilled, vitriol and no one has the courage to say what they did is wrong.  Does it have anything to do with the OP?  I don't know.  Can ANYONE decipher a point about the OP's post? 

All I am saying is people need to BACK OFF on how they treat CV drivers and not dedicate their clan pages to the 100 Worst CV Drivers in Nebraska.  Maybe, just maybe, if everyone just did what they were supposed to do instead of BLAMING losses on this "noob CV" or that "noob CV" not providing light or fighter cover or whatever you can think of to blame them for then MORE CV drivers might feel like playing CV.  Now wouldn't that SOLVE all our problems???

PS If you don't like what I have to say than moderate, you ARE the moderator.  You may wish to judge the "context" of my comments as well.  THat seems to be the new rage.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 06. 2012 18:25


CaptBellamy

Originally Posted by jimmyawsome

Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by jimmyawsome

I really don't no much about what it's like to play CV but that doesn't stop "some" people from commenting on SS when they don't know diddly squat, so here goes.

If I was playing CV, the first CLOWN that started barking orders to me about how he can't see this or he can't see that all the while the enemy scout circles overhead I would be hitting the escape button.  You see, Mr. BB decided that it is LESS humiliating to LOSE than to carry AA and since the ULTIMATE humiliation is to be sunk by a Submarine, Mr. BB likes to pack his T slots with PHH and block shot enough to cause your ears to ring.  Who cares if we lose, I got that pesky OP SS that SDE said would never be introduced into the game.  

If I was playing CV I would have a little note book with everyone who packs AA and everyone who packs PHH because the PHH are sitting ducks unless they are on a double date with a MOLTKE.

The only CV drivers I have respect for are the ones that send their fighters out to gobble up the enemy scouts right when they take off or not long after.  You know who you are.  When I see that it's GAME OVER for my side so I try to take as many with me as I can.



Not sure how this is related to the current discussion in any way. Please don't troll the thread. Also seems like I can access NF.Com again (for now). This thread is about the effectiveness of dropping the CV limit from 8 to 6.



You know what is so funny?  I comment in other peoples threads and I am trolling.  BUt they can't rip apart MY posts with the most vile, hatefilled, vitriol and no one has the courage to say what they did is wrong.  Does it have anything to do with the OP?  I don't know.  Can ANYONE decipher a point about the OP's post? 

All I am saying is people need to BACK OFF on how they treat CV drivers and not dedicate their clan pages to the 100 Worst CV Drivers in Nebraska.  Maybe, just maybe, if everyone just did what they were supposed to do instead of BLAMING losses on this "noob CV" or that "noob CV" not providing light or fighter cover or whatever you can think of to blame them for then MORE CV drivers might feel like playing CV.  Now wouldn't that SOLVE all our problems???

PS If you don't like what I have to say than moderate, you ARE the moderator.  You may wish to judge the "context" of my comments as well.  THat seems to be the new rage.



+1 and I do thnk that having 8 CVs instead of 6 (when we have them online) would be a good thing so I'll call this experiment of going to 6 a flat failure.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 06. 2012 19:13


ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by AzatheGunz

I miss 8 cv's having 6 Noobie cv's is rather silly. There is only a small amout of players with high lvl high Class cv's who bother to play in Gb. Its really only in a HA all the big boys come out to play. 

I vote back to 8. More food for aa boats! 


8 "noobie CVs" is better than 6 "noobie CVs"?

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 06. 2012 21:18


CaptBellamy

Originally Posted by ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by AzatheGunz

I miss 8 cv's having 6 Noobie cv's is rather silly. There is only a small amout of players with high lvl high Class cv's who bother to play in Gb. Its really only in a HA all the big boys come out to play. 

I vote back to 8. More food for aa boats! 


8 "noobie CVs" is better than 6 "noobie CVs"?



considering they are paired with up to 20 totally selfish, childish and self centered BB drivers why Yes!  I'd say so!  Next.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 07. 2012 01:10


MaskdBandit

I still preferred the gameplay of 8CVs by far. There was less selfish BWing (partly because of CV exp issues, partly because with 6CVs there's now significantly less enemy planes to interfere with bombers) and previously more vision all around. It's easy to say "all cv players barely know what they're doing" because you only notice when a CV does a crappy job. It seems actually that the better a job a CV does, the less likely you are to notice... 

However, I do certainly appreciate the faster start times. I absolutely love the ECVs for what they offer low level CVs (like a PBB for CVs; weak enough to not single handedly win a match, but powerful and versatile enough to have a significant impact none the less). I think they added a great component to encourage CV play in general. I bet, with the help of the new ECVs, that once the CV exp levels are fixed we'll see enough CVs online to get 8 per room again no problem. 

However, I've gotta say, ever since there's been a 6cv limit, there has been way more threads about noob cvs, about bashing noob cvs, cv requirements, etc. It's not like CV players have somehow just suddenly gotten worse; the only thing that has changed is the amount of CVs that can play per room now.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 07. 2012 05:05


jimmyawsome

Originally Posted by CaptBellamy

Originally Posted by ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by AzatheGunz

I miss 8 cv's having 6 Noobie cv's is rather silly. There is only a small amout of players with high lvl high Class cv's who bother to play in Gb. Its really only in a HA all the big boys come out to play. 

I vote back to 8. More food for aa boats! 


8 "noobie CVs" is better than 6 "noobie CVs"?



considering they are paired with up to 20 totally selfish, childish and self centered BB drivers why Yes!  I'd say so!  Next.



Uh oh, you smacked the hornets nest hahahahahahaha!

It's nothing more than simple mathematics which is why so many have difficulty grasping the concept. 

3 CV per side = workload 33.33% each CV

4 CV per side = workload 25% each CV

So from old way 25% to new way 33.33% you just increased the taskes of each sides CV's
a whopping 32%!!!

Now that is assuming that all 3 CV are of equal skill.  Now you factor in skill and level and no wonder games are so lopsided.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 07. 2012 18:31


ljsevern

Originally Posted by CaptBellamy

Originally Posted by ChicagoBears

Originally Posted by AzatheGunz

I miss 8 cv's having 6 Noobie cv's is rather silly. There is only a small amout of players with high lvl high Class cv's who bother to play in Gb. Its really only in a HA all the big boys come out to play. 

I vote back to 8. More food for aa boats! 


8 "noobie CVs" is better than 6 "noobie CVs"?



considering they are paired with up to 20 totally selfish, childish and self centered BB drivers why Yes!  I'd say so!  Next.



Because you clearly aren't biased are you. 

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 08. 2012 01:03


AdmHoliday

I don't think anyone is going to argue that the EXP issue with CVs needs to be fixed so whenever they decide to get around to it....it will increase those willing to invest the effort in them.

When you consider what a CV must do and how many crew it really needs to have, it is a much deeper investment in time and effort than any other ship.  You really do need to be able to FW or BW for your fleet with a CV sometimes and that means additional crew over just what it takes for a single CV6/BB6.  You almost need 2 crews.   ***Idea - add pilot training only slots to CV support...they can't be used and don't affect the ship but get to level up as well.  This would help CVs get proper crews up to competitive levels faster and allow for versatility while doing it.***

I will argue that I preferred the ability to have 8CVs in a game, or go with fewer if we so chose and it was a slow CV day.

Finally....I wonder why we even have plane tiers tied to pilot level.  Tie it to the ship levels.  By the time you are in a CV4 you should be able to run T4 planes...and let pilot ability and number of planes decide it from there.  It would certainly level the playing field a bit and if you have level 100 FPs you should still be able to handle those at say level 75 in the same plane...if not...you got other problems.

Now I know this post isn't only about the 8 vs 6 CV issue as stated in the thread title...but it's a much more complex problem than 8 vs 6 if we really want to fix it.

  • Re : 8CV to 6CV conclution

    07. 09. 2012 03:58


Bardioc

ashokacarrot :
I guess next it will be limited on 4 cv, 2cv even no CV. and game will be run faster and faster. Oh cool man, just do it.


Great idea, it would be funny to see 20 BBs cruising around blind for 15 mins and get 1k-3k xp each game

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