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  • Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 28. 2012 20:49


Rehor


Because two of the three mods I spoke to online had absolutely no interest in taking care of it (the other must have been AFK as he didn't reply).

And no, I'm not going to add any more details.  If you see what's going on here, you should know why this is a problem.

 

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 11:44


AndrusN
Originally Posted by ljsevern
although the room was closed at 7 people all in the same fleet, then opened for another a few minutes later...


I want to see proof of this accusation.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 11:49


AndrusN
Originally Posted by Plazmadj

Originally Posted by AndrusN

The rooms where made cause of the "Occupy NF" was happening. The main battle area was full when the rooms where made, and where not moved due to the fact that people where still coming over and joining.


Original reason it was made. To test whether or not the lag was preset on those areas, which it wasn't at first until more people came into the rooms. On top of that, there was not even enough people in those rooms at first to consider it a AB room, due to the fact that there was only 5 people in it. It was not until members of Black Sun's and Regalia came in that pushed it over the limit of 8 to gain exp, as well as a few players that where not in fleets.

It was not a AB room, so calm down people, no need to flame, or fleet bash, if that is the way that people want to take this thread, then it needs to be nuked.


That's an empty excuse, and you know it.

Everyone knows, (or can easily see), that the lag is affecting the ENTIRE GAME, not just specific areas. This is shown by areas with Harbors (lag in areas that are barely ever touched by rooms except during HAs), and the fact that there is no difference at all in exp, crew loss/gain, etc. between Nebby and Kaiser, yet Nebby uses Area 12 for their main battle area and Kaiser uses Area 7 for theirs. So trying to say "You were testing for lag" is an unacceptable attempt at an excuse to try to cover your rear-ends.

Simply put, according to the Universal Server Rules, ANY room hosted in that area when there is room in the other area is considered to be AB to TeamNF. The mods should have closed that room down, and either given a warning or a 15 minute ban for the host of those rooms last night.

At any time, you could have asked one of the hosts of the "Occupy Navyfield" rooms to close their room so you could open a regular battle room, did you think of that before you decided to jump to Area 7?

So, to test something out is known as ABing?


I see rooms open a lot in the other area, I even took place in a few of them while I was applying into BS, that was hosted by members of BS, though it was only a few members in there, and was only used as a 1v1, or a 2v2 room, but still what you are saying is, anyone that opens a room up over there is ABing or breaking the rules?

We had a mod come in there to check things out and even said that it is ok to host here cause of the bullshit that was happening in the main battle area. He never told us to shut it down, nor said that we where breaking the rules.

Also the fact that this is being brought by a member of this community that is known for not liking those members, yea, biased much?


Point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:00


ljsevern
Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by Universal Server Rules

Prearranged Battle:

1. These battles are also known as AB (Arranged Battles), which is where the battle
is already mapped out and known by both sides to the extent that it maximizes
experience for both because the outcome is known.

Example 1: Rooms called “Clan Name Only." If you must host a practice or meeting
room do it outside of areas, which grant experience and credits (i.e. outside of 7, 8,
and 12).

Example 2: AA room where large ships such as Battleship or Carrier will let others
beat him up without fighting back. Moderators are exempt from this rule to
host “Free EXP Rooms."

Example 3: A room where you will fire upon enemy hips however you will not kill
them, instead you will hit them and allow them to repair and he will do the same so
you both get as much attack, experience, and credits as possible.

Example 4: Operation Convoy where one team will capture the crate repeatedly
while the other team is instructed to not fight back, in return they will get to do it
next game.

Any battle in an XP area, that is not the main area for the server, when said main XP
area is not full, will be considered ABing.

For example, Nebraska uses Area 12. Therefore, if rooms are open in Area 7 by a fleet,
when Area 12 is not full, that will be considered an AB battle.

In addition, this can be ban-able on sight by a Moderator or GM. A report will be made and
all players in that room (especially if they are in the same fleet), can be subject to
disciplinary actions.

Further clarification of AB = Arranged Battle: Essentially, is when both sides have agreed to certain limitations controlling the outcome of a battle. (When is carried out by a single fleet,
or group of friends). This type of battle is only allowed in NON-XP areas. Two, or
more, fleets collaborating to ensure a pre-arranged outcome of a HA is also
considered an arranged battle.



*ANY* Battle room outside of the main battle area of that server created when the battle area is *NOT* full is considered an AB room.


Please can you actually read the rules.


I do believe I read them? Unless this wasn't directed at me. Anyways, I can't speak for what happened on that server as I do not moderate on Nebraska.


It was directed at those that were't reading the rules, thats all.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:02


War5pite
Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by Plazmadj

Originally Posted by AndrusN

The rooms where made cause of the "Occupy NF" was happening. The main battle area was full when the rooms where made, and where not moved due to the fact that people where still coming over and joining.


Original reason it was made. To test whether or not the lag was preset on those areas, which it wasn't at first until more people came into the rooms. On top of that, there was not even enough people in those rooms at first to consider it a AB room, due to the fact that there was only 5 people in it. It was not until members of Black Sun's and Regalia came in that pushed it over the limit of 8 to gain exp, as well as a few players that where not in fleets.

It was not a AB room, so calm down people, no need to flame, or fleet bash, if that is the way that people want to take this thread, then it needs to be nuked.


That's an empty excuse, and you know it.

Everyone knows, (or can easily see), that the lag is affecting the ENTIRE GAME, not just specific areas. This is shown by areas with Harbors (lag in areas that are barely ever touched by rooms except during HAs), and the fact that there is no difference at all in exp, crew loss/gain, etc. between Nebby and Kaiser, yet Nebby uses Area 12 for their main battle area and Kaiser uses Area 7 for theirs. So trying to say "You were testing for lag" is an unacceptable attempt at an excuse to try to cover your rear-ends.

Simply put, according to the Universal Server Rules, ANY room hosted in that area when there is room in the other area is considered to be AB to TeamNF. The mods should have closed that room down, and either given a warning or a 15 minute ban for the host of those rooms last night.

At any time, you could have asked one of the hosts of the "Occupy Navyfield" rooms to close their room so you could open a regular battle room, did you think of that before you decided to jump to Area 7?

So, to test something out is known as ABing?


I see rooms open a lot in the other area, I even took place in a few of them while I was applying into BS, that was hosted by members of BS, though it was only a few members in there, and was only used as a 1v1, or a 2v2 room, but still what you are saying is, anyone that opens a room up over there is ABing or breaking the rules?

We had a mod come in there to check things out and even said that it is ok to host here cause of the bullshit that was happening in the main battle area. He never told us to shut it down, nor said that we where breaking the rules.

Also the fact that this is being brought by a member of this community that is known for not liking those members, yea, biased much?


Point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.


You spent about 3 weeks on our Vent when applying to BlackSun, are you saying we AB'ed or took part in ghosting ? All I want is a Yes or No, we know the truth I just want you to know if you will speak the truth.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:07


AndrusN
Originally Posted by War5pite

Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by Plazmadj

Originally Posted by AndrusN

The rooms where made cause of the "Occupy NF" was happening. The main battle area was full when the rooms where made, and where not moved due to the fact that people where still coming over and joining.


Original reason it was made. To test whether or not the lag was preset on those areas, which it wasn't at first until more people came into the rooms. On top of that, there was not even enough people in those rooms at first to consider it a AB room, due to the fact that there was only 5 people in it. It was not until members of Black Sun's and Regalia came in that pushed it over the limit of 8 to gain exp, as well as a few players that where not in fleets.

It was not a AB room, so calm down people, no need to flame, or fleet bash, if that is the way that people want to take this thread, then it needs to be nuked.


That's an empty excuse, and you know it.

Everyone knows, (or can easily see), that the lag is affecting the ENTIRE GAME, not just specific areas. This is shown by areas with Harbors (lag in areas that are barely ever touched by rooms except during HAs), and the fact that there is no difference at all in exp, crew loss/gain, etc. between Nebby and Kaiser, yet Nebby uses Area 12 for their main battle area and Kaiser uses Area 7 for theirs. So trying to say "You were testing for lag" is an unacceptable attempt at an excuse to try to cover your rear-ends.

Simply put, according to the Universal Server Rules, ANY room hosted in that area when there is room in the other area is considered to be AB to TeamNF. The mods should have closed that room down, and either given a warning or a 15 minute ban for the host of those rooms last night.

At any time, you could have asked one of the hosts of the "Occupy Navyfield" rooms to close their room so you could open a regular battle room, did you think of that before you decided to jump to Area 7?

So, to test something out is known as ABing?


I see rooms open a lot in the other area, I even took place in a few of them while I was applying into BS, that was hosted by members of BS, though it was only a few members in there, and was only used as a 1v1, or a 2v2 room, but still what you are saying is, anyone that opens a room up over there is ABing or breaking the rules?

We had a mod come in there to check things out and even said that it is ok to host here cause of the bullshit that was happening in the main battle area. He never told us to shut it down, nor said that we where breaking the rules.

Also the fact that this is being brought by a member of this community that is known for not liking those members, yea, biased much?


Point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.


You spent about 3 weeks on our Vent when applying to BlackSun, are you saying we AB'ed or took part in ghosting ? All I want is a Yes or No, we know the truth I just want you to know if you will speak the truth.

If you know the truth war then why are you asking me?

You and I both know the truth, so don't try to put me out on front street.

Clean up your own backyard before you try to address others.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:09


War5pite
Dissapointed, I thought you would chose truth over saving face :(

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:13


AndrusN
Originally Posted by War5pite

Dissapointed, I thought you would chose truth over saving face :(

Saving face?

You want truth, it will find you if you look hard enough.

Like I said, you shouldn't throw rocks in glass houses.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:20


miet_
hmmm I smell gasoline and no one invited me.
:(

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:27


ljsevern
Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by Plazmadj

Originally Posted by AndrusN

The rooms where made cause of the "Occupy NF" was happening. The main battle area was full when the rooms where made, and where not moved due to the fact that people where still coming over and joining.


Original reason it was made. To test whether or not the lag was preset on those areas, which it wasn't at first until more people came into the rooms. On top of that, there was not even enough people in those rooms at first to consider it a AB room, due to the fact that there was only 5 people in it. It was not until members of Black Sun's and Regalia came in that pushed it over the limit of 8 to gain exp, as well as a few players that where not in fleets.

It was not a AB room, so calm down people, no need to flame, or fleet bash, if that is the way that people want to take this thread, then it needs to be nuked.


That's an empty excuse, and you know it.

Everyone knows, (or can easily see), that the lag is affecting the ENTIRE GAME, not just specific areas. This is shown by areas with Harbors (lag in areas that are barely ever touched by rooms except during HAs), and the fact that there is no difference at all in exp, crew loss/gain, etc. between Nebby and Kaiser, yet Nebby uses Area 12 for their main battle area and Kaiser uses Area 7 for theirs. So trying to say "You were testing for lag" is an unacceptable attempt at an excuse to try to cover your rear-ends.

Simply put, according to the Universal Server Rules, ANY room hosted in that area when there is room in the other area is considered to be AB to TeamNF. The mods should have closed that room down, and either given a warning or a 15 minute ban for the host of those rooms last night.

At any time, you could have asked one of the hosts of the "Occupy Navyfield" rooms to close their room so you could open a regular battle room, did you think of that before you decided to jump to Area 7?

So, to test something out is known as ABing?


I see rooms open a lot in the other area, I even took place in a few of them while I was applying into BS, that was hosted by members of BS, though it was only a few members in there, and was only used as a 1v1, or a 2v2 room, but still what you are saying is, anyone that opens a room up over there is ABing or breaking the rules?

We had a mod come in there to check things out and even said that it is ok to host here cause of the bullshit that was happening in the main battle area. He never told us to shut it down, nor said that we where breaking the rules.

Also the fact that this is being brought by a member of this community that is known for not liking those members, yea, biased much?


Point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.


Name that mod.

And according to the screenshot and the rules, that mod is wrong.

  • Re : Who Wants To Do Something About This?

    02. 29. 2012 12:37


AndrusN
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by AndrusN

Originally Posted by Plazmadj

Originally Posted by AndrusN

The rooms where made cause of the "Occupy NF" was happening. The main battle area was full when the rooms where made, and where not moved due to the fact that people where still coming over and joining.


Original reason it was made. To test whether or not the lag was preset on those areas, which it wasn't at first until more people came into the rooms. On top of that, there was not even enough people in those rooms at first to consider it a AB room, due to the fact that there was only 5 people in it. It was not until members of Black Sun's and Regalia came in that pushed it over the limit of 8 to gain exp, as well as a few players that where not in fleets.

It was not a AB room, so calm down people, no need to flame, or fleet bash, if that is the way that people want to take this thread, then it needs to be nuked.


That's an empty excuse, and you know it.

Everyone knows, (or can easily see), that the lag is affecting the ENTIRE GAME, not just specific areas. This is shown by areas with Harbors (lag in areas that are barely ever touched by rooms except during HAs), and the fact that there is no difference at all in exp, crew loss/gain, etc. between Nebby and Kaiser, yet Nebby uses Area 12 for their main battle area and Kaiser uses Area 7 for theirs. So trying to say "You were testing for lag" is an unacceptable attempt at an excuse to try to cover your rear-ends.

Simply put, according to the Universal Server Rules, ANY room hosted in that area when there is room in the other area is considered to be AB to TeamNF. The mods should have closed that room down, and either given a warning or a 15 minute ban for the host of those rooms last night.

At any time, you could have asked one of the hosts of the "Occupy Navyfield" rooms to close their room so you could open a regular battle room, did you think of that before you decided to jump to Area 7?

So, to test something out is known as ABing?


I see rooms open a lot in the other area, I even took place in a few of them while I was applying into BS, that was hosted by members of BS, though it was only a few members in there, and was only used as a 1v1, or a 2v2 room, but still what you are saying is, anyone that opens a room up over there is ABing or breaking the rules?

We had a mod come in there to check things out and even said that it is ok to host here cause of the bullshit that was happening in the main battle area. He never told us to shut it down, nor said that we where breaking the rules.

Also the fact that this is being brought by a member of this community that is known for not liking those members, yea, biased much?


Point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.


Name that mod.

And according to the screenshot and the rules, that mod is wrong.


Which screen shots are those?

The one that is up there in the first place?

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