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  • My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 08. 2011 04:06

andrzej125
I know some people think MN DB's should be nerfed. My opinion is that the damage itself is
fine. What needs to be nerfed is the fuel amount for these bombers.

I'm fine with MN bombers hitting hard, I'd dare say it's the other CV's that don't hit
hard enough. What is broken is the ridiculously large fuel capacity of this nation. The
problem is that you can prepare a 20+ DB combo and have them all return to the carrier O.o.

In my opinion the fuel shoud be nerfed to moreless where KM DBs are. This should make
launching 2 waves pretty much useless for anything except a straight line attack against
enemy BBs.
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  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 23:12

V2CxBongRipz
The only reason you have to scout for your team as a CV is because the only thing no skill
CV players can do with fighters is run them away from other fighters and scout. Because of
this BB players have grown lazy and the new players do not learn how to scout for
themselves. I have a good laugh when H44, SY, ect players say they are out of scouts
within 5-6 minutes of the game because they cant control them.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 19:27

SylverXI
Neh I was refering to the fact that NFKR CV gameplay is more fun then NFNA CV
gameplay. It's not funny that you have to spend your time scouting for BB's just to
win the game and not even getting rewarded for it.

It's not funny when you lose because your BB's wheren't as competent as you want
them to be and not get rewarded for doing a good job neverthless.

It's not funny that you as a CV is obligated to scout while you could be dogfighting
enemy fighters and actually get the rewards you deserve.

It's not funny that DB/TB configurations are no match against a FP-whore
configuration. The skill involved to beat a FP-whore CV in a DB/TB CV need to be far
superior.

Currently only very experienced CV players are capable of DB/TB whoring effectively
and actually win the match.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 15:05

Waylander
Nerf MN bomber damage, buff every other nations bomber fuel to the same as MN. That
way you still have the potential to nuke a high-tier BB utilising multiple waves.

To the best of my knowledge (haven't checked recently) CV's can nuke same tier or
lower CV's with a complete wave. The only time this differs is if high-level MN/UK CV's
are the targest (due to the restore advantage, ergo more SD) or if you're using an MN
CV to bomb, in which case you can use a CV2 to hunt CV3's and 4's due to the damage
potential of the bombers.

You're not going to be creating more BW's, as the average BW is still likely to just bomb
the closest target using the waves as they load rather than waiting to combine waves
to selectively nuke an important target

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 13:07

ljsevern
Ah, I assumed when you said "Sadly it's not", that you wanted it :P

But I do agree; The problem with the aircraft system is alot of stats are intwined.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 10:08

SylverXI
Nope, I didn't say Fighter fuel should be nerfed. On the contrary I like the Fighter fuel
capacity in NFNA better. I simply wanted to point out the difrences in the use of FP here
and in the KR server. Thus, you can't always compare the KR server with NA server.

But it does bring with it some annoying effect with it AKA Bomber whore configurations
are not as effective here compared with KR server because of that. The best
configuration remain FP or balanced configurations and DB/TB whore configurations are
left in the dark.

If only "scouting" gets rewarded one day. Been waiting for that one for +/-5 years now.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 09:43

ljsevern
While I agree with you in most part, the issue with putting fighter pilots for defense with
reduced fuel is that it becomes near impossible to scout (obviously not including T5's
because their combination of speed, sight range, durability and attack makes them horribly
overpowered).

It was actually trialled on NFNA; and it made the situation much worse. I honestly think
buff's to the bomber tiers in general while fixing the exp for fighter whoring/scouting and
tb'ing would make alot of difference.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 08:53

SylverXI
Wel I think MN does need the nerf it's gonna get although I do see your point of
view. I also think DB's and TB's whore CV aren't very competative against a FP whore
configuration except for the MN nation DB/TB whore CV which is well balanced
against FP whore CV's.

Even so I think the reason is the roll FP's play in this server compared with KR
servers. The roll is different which makes FP configurations overpowered against a
DB/TB whore configuration.

In this server FP's primary use are to scout and camp enemy BB's. While the roll most
people expect is that of keeping the enemy blind and intercept bombers. If FP was
for defense, then FP would have nerfed fuel values like in KR server. Sadly it's not.

Furthermore, the fuel shouldn't even be discused much. Am for buffing the fuel and
give DB/TB more time to out maneuver FP's. That CV's will load two bomber wave is
already possible with other nations, but look at it this way. If you fail at hitting
anything with those bombers, your kinda screwed. Not to mention you will have to
wait for them to return, then load.

The fact is it's easier to bomb with two waves now and sacrifice 1 wave instead of
waiting for them to return then load two complete waves again with an increased
fuel value like in MN. I do it all the time in IJN ^^.

PS. Before you respond farazelleth I know I know, scouting can also be done with T5
scout and fighters for defense. But that's another story.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 08:36

V2CxBongRipz
"Playstyle wise; People will do what gives them the best exp. At the moment, that is
DB'ers. That is the only reason people mass use DB'ers. "

and why TBs have gone out of favor. TBs are harder overall then DBs but with no reward for
using them.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 07:38

ljsevern
Playstyle wise; People will do what gives them the best exp. At the moment, that is DB'ers.
That is the only reason people mass use DB'ers.

  • Re : My ideas for MN DB's

    06. 09. 2011 05:10

free3play
"And the kicker is I'm not great at BW. "

If i stopped failing at manual dbs i could get close :P

I enjoy the challange of manual to much to stop though :D
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