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  • Wisconsin debate

    03. 11. 2011 08:59

Infern_oh
So who agrees with Scott Walker? Or even knows whats going on in Wisconsin?
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  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 16. 2011 13:59

Willg210
"Actually companies move around all the time due to taxes and other issues."

A few might, but as you said, its not always because of tax.

"A few members
of my mothers family own businesses and generally they recover their losses by raising
prices, letting some people go or forcing their employees to pay more into their benefits."

It obviously isn't a huge business then. I don't see why companies who are making
millions, if not billions, who can afford to pay a little more tax, shouldn't.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 16. 2011 13:26

Nightcrept
Actually companies move around all the time due to taxes and other issues. A few members
of my mothers family own businesses and generally they recover their losses by raising
prices, letting some people go or forcing their employees to pay more into their benefits.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 16. 2011 12:26

vandeg
The thing with taxes is that everything is taxed and yet we have to many
expenditures. If you look at where our tax dollars go, some of it goes to things that
are really needed while others not so needed programs or services.

I'm not saying teachers or education isn't needed, it is sorely needed(especially at a
better quality) but other Federal and State programs need to be cut. I haven't seen
any tightening of the Federal governments belt yet. A county in Michigan did tighten
its belt, by cutting county positions, instead of paving roads they made them into
gravel roads because its cheaper to manage, and some services were cut.

The town I live in recently spent $1 millions+ with the federal government matching
the amount, which came from the stimulus. What it did was repave the downtown
street (which really didn't needed to be done), added brick cross-walks (which
weren't needed), and added new sidewalks with other "beautification" stuff(which
weren't needed). When the government runs out of money and is in debt being more
spartan and frugal is the way to be, not like a drunken sailor. As for those who voted
for this project, lets just say it ruffled the feathers of some of the locals.

As for businesses and taxes with them moving around, it all depends on the
company. You don't see a concrete company moving somewhere where there is
already another company just like it. Other reasons can depend on resources,
transit, transportation, workforce, etc. Can taxes be a reason? In some cases yes. Is
it a good thing? I say yes, it brings jobs and new resources and income to a
community.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 16. 2011 11:28

Willg210
"Why do mental midgets keep hounding on tax breaks? "

Because if you don't collect taxes, you will have a hole in your budget. Maybe only give
tax breaks if you can afford them?

"IF YOU DO NOT PROVIDE THE TAX BREAK, THE COMPANY WILL GO SOME WHERE ELSE."

Here is the flaw in your logic. Why don't all companies go to the country/state with the
lowest tax rate?

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 16. 2011 10:22

Shimakaze
Why do mental midgets keep hounding on tax breaks? This is a very simple thing to
understand, if you give a business tax break to set up business in your community, you are
not YOU ARE NOT giving them money. You are simply not charging them to do business in your
community.
This means, now try and follow this, that that company will set up business in your
community, it will hire people in your community, it will pay them wages. From these wages
the government can extend its greedy hand and tax the worker. No, here comes the important
part, IF YOU DO NOT PROVIDE THE TAX BREAK, THE COMPANY WILL GO SOME WHERE ELSE. Now
understand that for those of the whiny left persuasion, that this is very difficult to
understand because your brains stop to function when you hear the term tax break, but the
problem is, one can not, should not pay government employees the dollar amount that is
paid in the private sector, it is unsustainable. It is as Shetland has stated, the
teachers unions have created such a bloated hierarchy that it is unsustainable. When ever
their is a budget crisis, the politicians wave children in the air, OMG! what about the
children, what about the schools. This is a problem created by the teachers union, they
have none but themselves to blame.
In my state, we have 198 school districts, you know what that means? 198 superintendents,
198 superintendent offices, 198 superintendent staffs, 198 superintendent office
maintenance staff,............... This is the bloated crap that is driving up the budget,
not the teachers, not the students, but the greed of the union.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 15. 2011 20:11

Nightcrept
@kings
You do know that 22 states in the United states are right to work states?

I believe the Unions purpose should be to protect the workers from unfair corporate
practices. But today unions are more worried about money and politics and could care less
about the impact their unions have on non-union workers.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 15. 2011 17:35

KINGS11
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state
and corporate power. - Mussolini That pretty much sums Wisconsin up.


I honestly believe Mussolini had this one right, power absolutely corrupts as does greed.
The Union is the third factor in the corporation and government Tri Fecta (sp?). If one
group gets too much influence over the Government (and it goes both ways) we have a problem.

It's a pendulum effect, the Unions via for power with one party the corporates another
party. You need a balance and we are purely seeing the powering out of control.


So in end, to bounce back at your statement Night, I think corporations are inherently
corrupt.

BP anyone? How did that clean up work.

I also think all Americans need to look at all topics more moderately, I viewed myself as
a Conservative until all these issues start arising, although I am not a Liberal, I seem
to go right down the middle split on different issues.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 15. 2011 14:54

Nightcrept
@shad
You are not entirely correct as wisconsin is not a right to work state.

And if giving people the option on how to spend their money is a pain for the Unions then
good.

I honestly believe that unions are inherently corrupt.


@will
If you spend less time reading the huffington post your jokes would be better.

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 15. 2011 14:23

Willg210
I think someones been drinking a bit too much tea at their last party and watching a
little too much fox news :P *giggles*

  • Re : Wisconsin debate

    03. 13. 2011 15:21

KINGS11
It's pure and simple greed at it's finest. That is all this is.

The balancing of the budget was an excuse to give the big corporations even more control
and money in the end, the unions were just used as the "excuse evil" to get the true evil
passed.

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