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  • SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 13:29


mattd3
SS vs SS warfare usually seems to involve both SS sitting in crit dive until their torps reload, then coming back up and waiting for the other sub to come up, firing, and submerging again. The victor comes out severly lacking in air, and the loser comes out with very small amounts of attack. Even more broken is that it essentially comes down to who reloads faster. It especially hurts SS 1,2, and to a lesser extent 3, because by the time they're done they're at half health from crit diving and almost out of air. I'm not sure what can be done to fix it, I'm not a game designer, but I do know something needs to be fixed because in its current state, SS vs SS is just not fun unless you somehow manage to get into a real duel, and even then lower SS get screwed because they won't have enough air to do any real damage after that.

 

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 13:38


captaincvfd
Try using your overheat when other sub launches dodge torps don't shoot all of yours and wait for them to pop back up

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 14:07


hot93rod
he has a point, ss v ss is a matter of tactics, what you mentioned is one, and perhaps the most used, but as you play it more you will learn there is more than one way to sink a ship.

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 14:31


mattd3
I don't use all my torps, generally. But I only have 4... Even on overheat I can't get out of the splash zone, and then I can't see where they are. Trying to go around presents your huge broadside to them and basically says "KILL ME!".

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 14:34


KingCong
you are leaving out so many factors in SS ASW tactics. Any decent SS player can avoid or even overcome a standoff even in a lesser sub.

What you describe is the most basic evasive maneuvers and you are not using your SS to its fullest potential.

Try reading some of the SS guides which can improve your gameplay and success in a standoff situation.

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 14:45


Monarch
First, if you are in an SS4 or SS5, that 'waiting in critical dive' thing doesn't happen for at the least, shouldn't happen. At that point, you have enough SD and DP to shrug off the first few hits. If the other guy dive to avoid that, you use that time to move out of the line and angle for a kill shot.

It's not hard.

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 12. 2011 15:52


ozzy0
ss vs ss ia a art only some are good in
those can kill an ss5 whith an ss2 or even a 1

my tip is look at what they are doing and try to coppy it

on the asw there is nothing as bad as being in ss vs ss at close range and the asw hh's both subs
the asw gets bad exp and the ss get the damage

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 13. 2011 07:47


woodskier
Seek the wisdom of the ultimate sub: Altsein, he is on Nebraska server, Amored Angel Fleet. and Ozzy0 from the Kaiser server.

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 13. 2011 09:37


Ultra_Dog
I think that as you get more experience and better subs, you will find your tactics changing.

Overall, I rarely use Crit dive during SS vs SS battles. Usually, I'll just take the hit, as CD can eat as much OR MORE of your DP anyway. Put some armor on and keep some OH available, maneuver, fire torps in gradual and try to maneuver around enemy torps. If you are in CD, you may be reloading, but as soon as you come up, there are torps enroute from the other sub.

I've been able to keep 3 enemy subs in critical dive and destroy them while maneuvering and NOT using critical dive. CD is used too often in my opinion.

Of course, what you also infer is that most Subs are sunk by other subs, not ASW. That's probably true also.

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 13. 2011 10:00


AndrusN
Originally Posted by Falcon91

Originally Posted by woodskier

Seek the wisdom of the ultimate sub: Altsein, he is on Nebraska server, Amored Angel Fleet. and Ozzy0 from the Kaiser server.


The fact that I've sunk both of those sub players in a FF-Y and in a SS1 in sad that you say their names like that wood.

+1

  • Re : SS vs SS warfare needs fixing

    12. 13. 2011 10:05


AndrusN
*Insert SS Video guide here*

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