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  • KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 11:40


Piombo

Ok this is basicly a rant that makes sense .

 

whats the point of have KM as the #1 Nation for Range when SN BB4 and RM BB4 and 5 can range /out range the H39 and H44 this is just rediculous

 

Germany
PRO
CONTRA
  • The final guns of each stage outrange the guns of other nations in that stage
  • Bonus to Engineers (speed!)
  • Great Anti-Aircraft (AA) guns
  • Guns and Ships are available a bit later (higher level)
  • Guns of each stage do relativeliy little damage compared to other nations (influenced by the fact that LightHE ammo is the best choice for Germans (range!))
  • Heavy, expensive armor
  • Monotone gameplay
Gameplay Style

Hit and Run! Lack of sheer brute force (damage per shell, armor efficiency) makes this (the combination of speed and range) the only way you can play with German ships. Use your great AA guns to shoot down enemy scouts to make this easier!

 

this has been fully down played with the release of SN and RM and negated all the Pros to the KM line WTF either Buff KM or finish Nerfing/fixing SN and RM the stupidity of these new nations has has altered the stats of the origanal nations

 

Japan
PRO
CONTRA
  • Best ship-mounted torpedoes in the game
  • Best torpedo-ships in the game
  • Big variety of CVs
  • Best AA Guns at high levels
  • Armor is not very effective
  • Very bad Support Crews
  • Bad AA at low and medium levels
Gameplay Style

You have much variety! Either go play with a good gun-based DD, or use a torp-only DD (so called "Torp Whore (TW)"), or use some of the good guns on CL/CA+!



UNITED KINGDOM
PRO
CONTRA
  • Best damage per shell
  • Best armor
  • Bonus on Repairers/Restorers
  • Gain an additional Slot for Support Sailors aboard a ship compared to most other Nations at a certain stage
  • Armor is expensive
  • Not all ships can be properly armored
Gameplay Style

Brute Force! You can apply excessive amounts of great armor on your ship (so called "Armor Whoring") and have guns that deal a big punch. But watch out! Do not trade too many sailors for armor, because only if you keep full sailors you will have enough experts later on!



UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
PRO
CONTRA
  • Great CVs
  • Good AA Aiming System (you see lines which indicated the height you are shooting at)
  • Hard hitting Guns and slim ship designs at BB stage
  • Well-balanced overall
  • Being "balanced" is also a contra: The Guns have no range advantage over all others at any stage
Gameplay Style

You have much variety, similar to Japan! Some of your DDs are good for torp-whoring, other for guns. Guns and ships are well-balanced overall.

 

 

so

 whats the Pros and Cons to the New Nations none there OP by bad testing/balancing

 

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 11:49


Rehor

Somebody's delusional, or a product of eating up everything he's ever heard.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 11:54


Piombo

Originally Posted by Rehor

Somebody's delusional, or a product of eating up everything he's ever heard.


^^ I would love to recall a time were your not spamming or flamming every post you can find Rehor and for that i have no respect for you but only can agree when you make a seldom valid point about somthin wich is probly 2% of any post you've made in your NF life of

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 11:57


Rehor

Originally Posted by Piombo

SN BB4 and RM BB4 and 5 can range /out range the H39 and H44 this is just rediculous

Proof.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 12:00


flaggelant

Originally Posted by Piombo

Originally Posted by Rehor

Somebody's delusional, or a product of eating up everything he's ever heard.


^^ I would love to recall a time were your not spamming or flamming every post you can find Rehor and for that i have no respect for you but only can agree when you make a seldom valid point about somthin wich is probly 2% of any post you've made in your NF life of



+1  xD


the SN BB4 being a bit better than the '39 is countered by the BB5 tiers, where its the other way around imo.

and the RM ones are going to be nerfed which is tested/done in the testserver atm (afaik).

other than that you could say that, atm, it sucks to play km against the newer nations. 

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 12:24


Piombo

Originally Posted by flaggelant

Originally Posted by Piombo

Originally Posted by Rehor

Somebody's delusional, or a product of eating up everything he's ever heard.


^^ I would love to recall a time were your not spamming or flamming every post you can find Rehor and for that i have no respect for you but only can agree when you make a seldom valid point about somthin wich is probly 2% of any post you've made in your NF life of



+1  xD


the SN BB4 being a bit better than the '39 is countered by the BB5 tiers, where its the other way around imo.

and the RM ones are going to be nerfed which is tested/done in the testserver atm (afaik).

other than that you could say that, atm, it sucks to play km against the newer nations. 


that makes sense but why wouldnt they just release the New Nations under powered and just Buff them were needed seems it would be 100% easier then to release OP stuff and kill off the original nations stats till they decide to alter them for Balance wich hasnt been done all that well not saying to the tester i can do there work any better but thats what critisism is for .

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 13:00


NewYorkBoy

Im tired of you fools saying RM BB4 ranges other ships..The damn thing cannot even range L1. Unless you have you ship you wouldn't know. And KM is still the greatest range nation.. Thats all its known for. Don't expect it to be a powerhouse In GBs.. Try playing BB rooms you will see its true skills...(if you have any)

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 13:19


testarossa

RM BB4 has iowa range i believe.

RM BB5 doesnt have H44 range i believe 

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 13:39


ReinforceII

I confirm that RM BB4 got the Yamato range not H39

and RM BB5 got range between SY and L2 and it is unstable range  but still outranged by H44

 

 

 

KM still got the best range than other nation compared by tier

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 13:44


tappo01

Originally Posted by ReinforceII

I confirm that RM BB4 got the Yamato range not H39

and RM BB5 got range between SY and L2 and it is unstable range  but still outranged by H44

 

 

 

KM still got the best range than other nation compared by tier



What about H39 vs Stalingod? Should be pretty close IMO.

  • Re : KM Range nation

    04. 15. 2012 13:49


MrClueLess

RM BB4 and 5 only appear to have longer range because they are angle 25 and have horrible spread. So you cant slingshot against them properly, and a couple of stray shots are going to have longer range.


The main problem is the angle not the range. Oh and the tiny hitbox. 

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