ID
Password
FlashGuide
FlashGuide
HA Infomation

General Discussion

  Index

  • Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 09. 2012 18:05


TeamNF_MK2

Hey guys,

 

We've had a number of players voice their concerns regarding Scout-only CVs.  For example, players who might be leveling crews who resort to using this setup for efficiency or players who just wish to make use of their newly acquired ECVs.

 

We officially do not condone this action as it does negatively affect in-game balance. Doing so also goes against our server rule referencing attack capability of ships.

 

We will not be actively enforcing a rule against this at this time, but we do urge users to equip at least a single bomber or fighter. We will update if there is a change to our stance on this.

 

Thank you for your understanding,

 

-Randy



 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 10:25


ljsevern

However, it won't be useful when the T5 scouts are fixed.

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 10:30


testarossa

i play scout only cv and gave perfect vision, this is bad for my tem, GG

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 11:20


MIKIEBOY666

And yet when we ask for support due to cv (bomber whores) negatively impacting on game play we are told you can play how you want, so why is a scout only cv any different from playing how you want? 

A little ironic don't you think, thought i'd quote something from a dictionary - something that certain members of SDE fail to know exists....

two-faced

adj
deceitful; insincere; hypocritical
two-facedly [?tu??fe?s?dl? -?fe?st-] adv
two-facedness n

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 11:26


NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you complain about Overpowering stuff. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 11:29


ljsevern

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you complain about Overpowering stuff. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



The IM was overpowered.

Subs are overpowered

RM is overpowered

The T5 scout is overpowered.

I'll fix your quote for you:-

 
Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you are right. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



Feel free to make a debate in the test server forum if you disagree with those assessments. 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 11:38


Sindher

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you complain about Overpowering stuff. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



The IM was overpowered.

Subs are overpowered

RM is overpowered

The T5 scout is overpowered.

I'll fix your quote for you:-

 
Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you are right. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



Feel free to make a debate in the test server forum if you disagree with those assessments. 



I think what NYB means is that nearly every post you make you complain about stuff...






noob. 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 11:51


hiroito

How exactly being a dedicated scout ship is an useless tactic? I mean, I get tired of being unable to provide vision with my FP. If I decide to use maybe 2, 3, 4, 5 scout pilots on my ship just to be able to provide vision: Am I really that less usefull to my team? 

Most of the time My FP get raped, so do my DBs. If I manage to put up some FPs above a BB they will eventually be targeted over some scouts to be shot down since they give more credits.

Most of the AA players on Kaiser ignore Scouts. Besides, using scouts can prove really helpful if you know how to use them (Keep them away from enemy ships while not at max altitude).

Randy, I do appreciate your work. But to be honest this rule is just nonsense. Most of the people around here complain against CVs that "Can't scout" So when one decides to use only scouts then he/she is going to be penalized while BWs are just left lying around? This is nonsense. If Scout only CVs are going to be penalized then penalize BWs and FWs the same way.

No, the argument "But fighters are not supposed to be used to provide vision" is notvalid since Providing vision to my teammates BBs is the only reson Why I try to send my fighters there. If that wasn't the case then there would be no point on sending my FP over the enemy line to be eventually shot down either by enemy FP or AA. Unfortunately, in this game CVs are only useful to a team in order to provide vision and to some degree provide Fighter cover against DBs. At least this is during the "Low" level stages (Up to lvl 100 when FP can actually try to shot down a Tico's EBVE FP)

Personally I run mostly FPs and just two full launches of DBs (This is, 16 DBs). I am not a high level CV player, nor do I run scouts only. But I would like to have that option if one day I decide to do it, since the only one that is going to be affected from it will be just me. -Only me will recieve low shared exp for not doing any damage.
-Only me will recieve low credits for not shooting down any planes.
-If I do it correctly, then my team mates will have good vision all the time.

I am not trying to protect those who abuse the system, I am just advocating for freedom of play. There are enough restrictions out there (Most of them are because using a different configuration will be detrimental to my team) to create another one, keeping the enemy lit is not detrimental for my team.

TL;DR: Using scouts only is a Viable tactic. After all, people tend to aim for the FPs first, then if they have a chance, will aim for the scout planes. 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 12:11


hiroito

Hate typos and that English is not my first language... 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 12:25


ljsevern

Originally Posted by Sindher

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you complain about Overpowering stuff. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



The IM was overpowered.

Subs are overpowered

RM is overpowered

The T5 scout is overpowered.

I'll fix your quote for you:-

 
Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you are right. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



Feel free to make a debate in the test server forum if you disagree with those assessments. 



I think what NYB means is that nearly every post you make you complain about stuff...

noob. 



Not every post.

As I said, if he wants to make a point in the test server forum that they aren't overpowered, he can make a thread.

But I guess if people want to complain about me being right, then its the least of my worries. 

  • Re : Regarding Scout only CVs

    04. 10. 2012 13:45


Sindher

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by Sindher

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you complain about Overpowering stuff. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



The IM was overpowered.

Subs are overpowered

RM is overpowered

The T5 scout is overpowered.

I'll fix your quote for you:-

 
Originally Posted by NewYorkBoy

Originally Posted by ljsevern

If its the 120 scouts, then no issues. But thats because they are overpowered.

And the minelayer scout setup (non T5) is stupid, any half decent player will completely negate it. 

Swear everytime i read the forums you are right. IM (OP) Subs(OP) TS scout (OP) RM (OP) whats not OP? yammato AA?



Feel free to make a debate in the test server forum if you disagree with those assessments. 



I think what NYB means is that nearly every post you make you complain about stuff...

noob. 



Not every post.

As I said, if he wants to make a point in the test server forum that they aren't overpowered, he can make a thread.

But I guess if people want to complain about me being right, then its the least of my worries. 





nooby noob noob.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7