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  • Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 03. 2011 07:23

mailman
Ship:

BB Alsace: Large T space: 153 -> 139
BB Charlemagne: T space: 115 -> 87
BB Courbet: Normal Displacement: 5973 -> 15973
BB Courbet: Standard Displacement: 17189 -> 27189
BB Courbet: Maximum Displacement: 26000 -> 36000
BB Bretagne: Normal Displacement: 3320 -> 13320
BB Bretagne: Standard Displacement: 18230 -> 28230
BB Bretagne: Maximum Displacement: 25000 -> 35000
BB Lorraine: Normal Displacement: 7739 -> 19559
BB Lorraine: Standard Displacement:20230 -> 32050
BB Lorraine: Maximum Displacement: 28180 -> 40000
BB Paris: Normal Displacement: 8524 -> 21232
BB Paris: Standard Displacement: 19850 -> 32558
BB Paris : Maximum Displacement: 29292 -> 42000
BB Normandie: Normal Displacement: 9184 -> 20034
BB Normandie: Standard Displacement: 25230 -> 36080
BB Normandie: Maximum Displacement: 29150 -> 40000
BB Lyon: Normal Displacement: 8472 -> 15122
BB Lyon: Standard Displacement: 29000 -> 35650
BB Lyon: Maximum Displacement: 33350 -> 40000
BB Strasbourg: Normal Displacement: 13622 -> 24522
BB Strasbourg: Standard Displacement: 26500 -> 37400
BB Strasbourg: Maximum Displacement: 37500 -> 48400
BB Richelieu (1939): Normal Displacement: 17475 -> 25475
BB Richelieu (1939): Standard Displacement: 35000 -> 43000
BB Richelieu (1939): Maximum Displacement: 50548 -> 58548
BB Alsace: Normal Displacement: 17084 -> 20394
BB Alsace: Standard Displacement: 45700 -> 49010
BB Alsace: Maximum Displacement: 66690 -> 70000
CA Maxim Gorky: Armor weight constant increase by 30%
CA Kirov: Armor weight constant increase by 30%
SN CA Maxim Gorky: Turning force: 25 -> 18
SN CA Kirov: Turning force: 25 -> 19
BB Gangut: OH ratio: 34% -> 40%
BB Stalingrad: OH ratio: 30% -> 35%
BB Imperatritsa Mariya: OH ratio: 35% -> 40%
SN BB Gangut level: 67 -> 65
SN BB Izmail level: 68 -> 66


Guns:

MN Lvl 120 x4 18.89 /45 Cal Model 1945 (BB6 guns): HE damage: 1500 -> 1450
SN Lvl 91 x3 16"/50 B-37 Pattern 1937: Gun angle: 40 -> 45 (only change this, range can
change, that뭩 no problem)
SN Lvl 89 x3 12?/62 SM-33 Pattern 1948: Shell weight: 1050 -> 550 (to fix the insane
penetration on these shells?we know other guns will be affected. Might have to deal with
that after this change)
MN Lvl 15 x2 3.5"/50 cal Model 1926: reload time: 0.8 -> 1.2
SN Lvl 36 2x 6"/57 B-38 MK-17 Pattern 1938: maximum angle: 45 -> 85
SN lv 38 2x 8"/50 Pattern 1905, 1x 8"/50 Pattern 1905: reload: 10.00-> 8.0
SN lv 38 2x 8"/50 Pattern 1905: Accuracy +1
SN lv 52 2x 10": range: Current-> lv 58 12" Pattern 1877 (do this via gun as we think it
shares shells with another gun)
SN lv 78 x3 12?B-36 Pattern 1937: Accuracy bonus -1
SN lv 67 3x 12"/52 pattern 1906: level: 67 -> 65
SN lv 67 3x 12"/52 pattern 1906: Accuracy: +1
SN lv 68 x3 14"/52 Pattern 1913: level: 68 -> 66
SN lv 68 x3 14"/52 Pattern 1913: 15.76 -> 16.68
SN lv 68 x3 14"/52 Pattern 1913: Accuracy +1


Special:

Richelieu big T slot firing arcs... (turrets should be able to rotate 360 degrees like all
T slots...)


SN New gunset: (For BB1, to make it less useless, which it is with the current guns, no
one uses it)
3x 12"/52 pattern 1904
1. Turet Type: x3
2. Req. Ability: Heavy
3. Level: 63
4. Cost: 23000
5. Weight: 1400.0 t
6. Space: 260
7. Caliber: 12.00
8. Train Speed: +35
9. Muzzle Velocity: 800
10. Reload Speed: 13.00
11. (Max.) High Angle: 40
12. Range: same as SN lv 61 2x 12"/40 Pattern 1895
13. Shells: Same shells stats as SN lv 67 3x 12"/52 pattern 1906
14. Sprite: The same sprite used for the SN lv 67 3x 12"/52 pattern 1906



--- explanation/reasoning:
1+2. Quad AA (or trip) on these T slots is way to much. Need to be dropped to duals.
3. All SN high lvl guns are @ 45 degreees, and this should fix the range roughly as we
want it.
4. penetration on these shells is to much. Let's see what the lower shellmass does. Values
are the ones richard recommended. This will also affect both BB3, we will ahve to deal
with that later.
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  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 08. 2011 10:16

ljsevern
Angus, this is about fitting it in with the current BB's. We can concentrate more on the
exact changes the the fact of the APHC when we look at the BB5's. No need to change the
displacement at the moment.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 08. 2011 09:54

richardphat
APHC and DP is unrelated.
Stop pretending as if you know how this work angus.

Because by then, why don't we just fix all same APHC and play with the DP , or fix all DP
and play with APHC?

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 08. 2011 09:49

angus725
If you increase the Alsace APHC to 4500, the DP should also increase by ~1500.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 08. 2011 04:52

ljsevern
And Angus? The Alsace is meant to be worse than US submergence wise. It has the same
range, worse spread, far better AA, faster, smaller hitbox but less armour penetration.

MN is meant to be less durable than both US and UK. So to fit MN into the current
submergence values, it needs to be at the 4500 cap.

Regarding the SN BB5 range, can you get a screenshot/video of that? Either way, it needs
changing.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 22:11

richardphat
And Alsace has AA, 42 knots, smaller hitbox and got its range slitgthly buffed. Now, it's
main ranged is a pixel shorter than Monty. But its second jump range, goes into L2
territories at a HIGH frequencies.


Or in good english, that new thing now can Outrange monty, not by running or firing from
south to north.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 21:20

angus725
Lukas, the Alsace has less DP than Montana.


Further Changes needed to the SN BB5; Quads still outrange the trips (just). Not sure
on their relative ranges compared to the other BB5's.

Both are near SY/Monty range.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 14:13

ljsevern
Further Changes needed to the SN BB5; Quads still outrange the trips (just). Not sure on
their relative ranges compared to the other BB5's.

MN BB5 Alsace;

Needs another submergence nerf; It shouldn't have better submergence than the Montana.

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 13:40

richardphat
Courbet 2160
Bretagne 2100
Lorraine 2400
Paris 2520
Normandie 2400
Lyon 2400
Strasbourg 2904
Richelieu 3512
Alsace 4200

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 11:37

ljsevern
Can we actually have the APHC values please...

  • Re : Upcoming Proposal (WIP) - June 5th (updated)

    06. 07. 2011 06:14

richardphat
Hey how about the Lion I then?
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