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    03. 17. 2011 12:20

vick11
Now that the SN has been introduced testing can move on to look at the MN balance and
whether anything needs adjusting in there. We have had this nation for a year and some
minor tweaks have been done; however, starting next Friday (25th March 2011) there is
an
opportunity to test some different settings and to propose a change for the main servers
if required. The test period will run for approximately a month to 6 weeks.

Sailor information and accounts will be reset each Thursday or Friday as appropriate.
Normal testing rules to apply.

So, please start a discussion here on what changes you would like to see tested for the
MN
and we can start building the first test patch for next week.

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There has been some comments on the way SN was discussed and implemented.

Therefore, we will be doing things a bit differently with the MN balance.

First of all, this will be a project where we will tweak MN balance. We will not create a
total new balance.

Also there will be a lot more discussion before any changes are implemented.

I will be making seperate topics for the seperate ships to prevent to much confusion.

We received a number of proposals from different sources. I will post those ideas in those
topics also for discussion.

MM

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  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 20:09

Joker789
Yes, DBs and TBs should be decreased but for bbs i think that they are pretty good
that way...Tell me somethin' i heard rumors about improved km nation 'cause they
are horrible (BB5) compared to another nations is that true or no ? I hope that is :)

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 18:46

Tabihun
13,4" Quad guns:
Higher reload time.

Algerie/Tourville
A little ammospace

Strassbourg:
1 more support slot

Richellieu:
More HE defense 1399-->2000-2400
+50-100 shelldamage for the 14,96" quads.
More ammo

Alsace:
A litle more DP (around 30000) and/or damage (+25-50/shell) (Monty has 4k more DP and 100
more shelldamage with same range, but Alsace is smaller a bit.)
More ammo
Divide the T gunslots for 2 groups. 112 Arm spaces for C, and 57 spaces for Z.


  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 17:39

Gratza
I think we have to have damage be best bb4 dmg to counterbalance worst
range... but thats just me

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 17:11

shira
1. ship submergence value should be change , especially BB/CV
2. aircraft bomb and torp damege nerf to averange value , no nation should have
both best DB and TB
3. DB , TB , scout aircraft status rebalance .
4. Paris and Lorrain support slot decreese from 7 -> 6 . 7 is BB4 supprot slot value .
BB2/3 should have 6 supprot slot . (no need to change strasbourg due to lack of
rear R slot )
5. Courbet , Bretagene , Paris , Lorrain gun space and weight change , PCA
should'nt use BB2+gun(Paris gun) , same as Bretagne .
6. Strasbourg and Richealiu main gun buff , now MN BB3/4 have shortest range +
worst damege + crap spread + lack of ammo in their tier .

And a question , should we balance Paris and Lorrain as BB2 ? or BB3 ?

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 16:11

V2CxBongRipz
"Then would you be so kind as it enlighten me why MN DB's shouldn't be middle of the
pack? Is it because of all the people that leveled up DB Whores knowing that MN was
never balanced to begin with? "

Exactly why. He has a DB only MN crew.

The logical thing to do is use the conversion formula that dragonstar pointed out in
another thread. Just because SDE dropped the ball and did not balance MN for NA servers
does not mean you should tailor it to the crew you chose.

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 16:06

jhempsrt4
I guess I fall in that group. I just got a MN BW CV crew a few weeks ago thinking
that they were the best and were gona stay that way. So yeah, I am disappoint.
But, I am trying to think about it with an open mind.

If I leveled an UK TB whore cv crew because they were they best, then another
nation came about unbalanced and replaced them, I suppose I would be a bit miffed
as well.

As far as the Korean stats go, I don't think we should even consider Korean stuff
when we discuss our stuff. Let them play it the way they want, and we will play it
the way we want. So, the real challenge is knowing where the devs/community feel
like MN should fit in the CV hierarchy. So far it seems "average" which equates
to "borring" to me. We need to give MN something that the others don't have.
Anything. Just please for the love of god don't make them another fucking clone.

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 15:45

SiriusA
Then would you be so kind as it enlighten me why MN DB's shouldn't be middle of the
pack? Is it because of all the people that leveled up DB Whores knowing that MN was
never balanced to begin with?

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 15:31

Willg210

"FYI,MN Bombers are MEANT to be middle of the road,maybe the fuel values could use a
bit of adjustment from what i posted,but their bomb + torp damage are NOT supposed
to be the best,plus there's no reason why the MN CV6 should have a bit extra plane
space than the other nations,and its DB plane space is the same as all the other
nations (100 for T1,120 for T2) "

Thats what they were on the korean server, however this is not the korean server. We must
tailor MN for our servers.

  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 15:16

crazybrayden
CV:
MN T3 fighter speed: 655 to around 635

MN bomber fuel and damage being reduced to NFNA numbers. in NFKR they play the
middle ground as far as damage goes i think the NFNA numbers should reflect that.

CV6 liberte plane space: 14280 to 14000

PCV daladier plane launch: 12 to 11

joffre plane space: 8700 to around 8400 or so

BB:
overall ammo space buffs. since there are no resupply ships ammo should not be a
way to balance ships, it does not make a whole lot of sense in my opinion

decrease speed, and increase spread on the paris

increase speed by one or two knots on the stras and add another sailor spot for the
gunner.

CA:
mandel R slot nerf


  • Re : MN Balance Project

    03. 17. 2011 15:11

SiriusA
FYI,MN Bombers are MEANT to be middle of the road,maybe the fuel values could use a
bit of adjustment from what i posted,but their bomb + torp damage are NOT supposed
to be the best,plus there's no reason why the MN CV6 should have a bit extra plane
space than the other nations,and its DB plane space is the same as all the other
nations (100 for T1,120 for T2)
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