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Borderhumping? Yes or No?
10. 30. 2011 02:23
Maistral
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I'm actually not sure with this one, so I'm leaving you guys to answer this. I only need a YES or a NO though.
Are you borderhumping planes when your planes are approx. 1 inch away from the border? YES or NO?
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 06:38
PortGlasgow
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Originally Posted by Splid
Learn to Read. You had a whole thread to read, and you decided to take it upon yourself to NOT read the server rules or any other rules and then start making assumptions about what is being said... I have to say, that is a Grade A for how to play Navyfield. No clue, no intention of getting a clue, why don't you just put in an application to 1stSSF and get it over with?
**EDIT: Bah, that bit was changed >.>
You even concede you are unaware of the existance of border humping, yet don't post in the thread asking for clarification? But maybe I am expecting too much for someone to know the difference between a discussion on WHAT something is, and whether it is legal... Those two things are such a close distinction I have trouble understanding it sometimes myself, but those helpful little things called words make it a lot easier for me when I read them. I apologise for my comments, your mistake was an easy one for someone unable to comprehend the English language therefore I must be wrong.
Thanks for the reply Splid. To confirm I have neither asked or requested your input, only clarification from the game admin. Bloodsky very kindly confirmed shortly after. At no point within the thread did anyone confirm the legality of the tactic, so the assumptions made, although incorrect, were based on general feelings by posters. I think you do yourself a disservice Splid, you should spend some time learning to post in a manner that doesn't cast yourself as a child stamping its feet. To avoid cluttering the thread with more of your "rants" please feel free to pm me.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 06:51
Monarch
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Originally Posted by PortGlasgow
Originally Posted by Splid
Words.
Other words.
Bloodsky is a forum mod. He can say whatever he wants, doesn't automatically mean that he is right. The 'apparent' answer is SDE can't be bother enforcing it so it is ignored. Because of this, players that do boarder hump are publicly tarred and feathered as they are a tool.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 07:18
ljsevern
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I just don't see how it is so hard for TNF to ban players that border hump bombers when there is enough video/screenshot (multiple screenshot) evidence.
They ban for much less.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 08:18
Splid
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Originally Posted by PortGlasgow
Thanks for the reply Splid.
To confirm I have neither asked or requested your input, only clarification from the game admin. Bloodsky very kindly confirmed shortly after. At no point within the thread did anyone confirm the legality of the tactic, so the assumptions made, although incorrect, were based on general feelings by posters.
I think you do yourself a disservice Splid, you should spend some time learning to post in a manner that doesn't cast yourself as a child stamping its feet. To avoid cluttering the thread with more of your "rants" please feel free to pm me.
I think that one person's incorrect perception of my actions is something I can live with. I think that my general perception in the community is not aligned to yours, so again, I think I can live with it :) Then again, when I am right, I don't think I particularly care what I look like :)
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 10:22
aingeal
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Originally Posted by PortGlasgow
Originally Posted by Splid
Originally Posted by PortGlasgow
Very misguiding thread...
Is border humping against the rules?
Accoring to TNF Mod Pathfinder19 - no, perfectly acceptable tactic
Reading this thread I got the strong impression this tactic was not allowed
Thank You God. I was just waiting for the guy who never bothers to read the thread properly to arrive and now you have. At no point did the people who know what they are talking about suggest that Border Humping is against the Server Rules. We simply stated WHAT border humping is. This is the exact problem that I mentioned earlier, someone doesn't read the thread properly, runs to a MOD and the MOD (through no fault of his own) gets caught up in a discussion that hasn't even occured and gets brought in on the side of the guy who can't read... IF this thread was about whether border humping is legal or illegal you would have found that the answer would be that for the Server Rules (excluding HA) it is NOT illegal. For the HA rules, they specifically state that BorderHumping CANNOT be illegal. For Fleet Wars, this is down to the individual fleet war, reading each ruleset will give you the answer. This happens every time... Why oh why oh why?
Thanks for the highly charged emotional response Splid, as composed as a clown running through a minefield. In reference to the thread, I've read it from start to finish, the concept of border humping was new to me, before this thread, as a non cv player, I wouldn't have even recognised the tactic as anything more than sneaky. The comments you provided and others, which I wholeheartedly agree with, gave the impression it wasn't just an opinion rather an exploit of the game. My apologies, i've never read a rule book of any online game, the only players who examine rules are either trying to circumvent or punish others. The vast majority will pick up rules either ingame or through normal threads like this one, the definition of border humping has been nailed down but lets be clear to new players, its a sneaky tactic but completely legal. @Ijsevern, I completely agree, it happened to me in a server with the mod - Pathfinder19 in attendance, I can only assume he witnessed the CV player doing it, but as bloodsky confirmed its a completely legal tactic so no action taken. ,
Whats hilarious is that this thread isn't even asking if borderhumping is legal or not, and my tought is that the OP knows very well it is, even if its widely considered a "cheap" and "skilless" trick. Question, that was answered in 1st page, was, at what point do we consider planes to start borderhumping, So rather than bellyaching, and defending you've read the whole thread, I'll suggest you give an extra read to the original post, and might realize how your first input is in fact totally not answering it.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 12:11
PortGlasgow
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Apologies Aingeal, my patience for obnoxious tarts has run out, go back inside Splid or troll bait elsewhere.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 12:17
Splid
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Originally Posted by PortGlasgow
Apologies Aingeal, my patience for obnoxious tarts has run out, go back inside Splid or troll bait elsewhere.
Lol. Learn to read. Someone calling you out for your lack of reading and understanding isn't Trolling...
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 12:54
aingeal
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Originally Posted by Nephalem
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by Splid
*sigh*
Why are people so unable to understand a simple concept?
If a plane is NOT visible (shadow doesn't count) through the normal viewing of Navyfield it is considered borderhumping.
This includes the zoomed out version, something which can be seen when zoomed out but not when zoomed in is NOT considered border humping.
If a plane is visible when the HUD is lowered but not visible when the HUD is raised this is ALSO border humping. The game is required to be played with the HUD up, and as such using it to hide planes is clearly exploiting the game for your benefit.
This isn't a hard concept to grasp, if the plane is not visible on the screen and you are zoomed out, it is border humping... Shadows DO NOT count.
This. I would add that the Shadows and Planes need to be visable, not just the planes. Why? You need the plane to judge the height, and the shadow to judge where to aim.
/thread
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
11. 06. 2011 15:35
normpearii
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How on earth is this still going...
Stop flaming. The answers have been given.
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Re : Borderhumping? Yes or No?
12. 02. 2011 14:52
NFSF430
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With true border humping it should be not allowed and should be illegal.
TNF made it technically legal because they got too lazy to enforce it.
"C. Rules Related to Game Play.
Game play is what Navy Field is all about. Accordingly, the rules that govern game
play in Navy Field are taken very seriously by SD EnterNet. Note that SD EnterNet
considers all valid play styles in Navy Field to be part of the game, and not
harassment, so player-killing the enemies of your team, or using torpedoes is
considered a part of the game. Because Navy Field is a "player vs. player" game, you
should always remember to protect yourself in areas where the members of hostile
team can attack you, rather than contacting SD EnterNet in-game customer service
representatives, referred to herein as "Team N.F," for help when you have been
killed by an enemy of your team. Nonetheless, certain acts go beyond what is "fair"
and are considered serious violations of these Terms of Use. Those acts include, but
are not necessarily limited to, the following:
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available,
or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players."
In that section " (i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available,
or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players."
BHing gives you a competitive advantage over other players by expoliting the code in Navyfield.
Then again: "3. Navy Field Rules of Conduct.
As with all things, Navy Field is governed by certain rules of conduct that must be
adhered to by all users of Navy Field. It is your responsibility to know, understand
and abide by these rules of conduct.
The following rules are not meant to be "exhaustive," and SD EnterNet reserves the
right to determine what conduct it considers to be outside the spirit of the game and
to take such disciplinary measures as it sees fit. SD EnterNet reserves the right to
add to or amend this list of rules at any time, and you are responsible for checking
these Terms of Use for any newly amended or posted rules each time that you
log on to Navy Field website."
And I really don't think that BH is in the "spirit of the game". However, I guess that is up to interpretation.
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