My point is even in my yorktown I can keep most of S and middle FC'd and 1-2CV's camped. Learn to micro and right click you have no problems (and adjust altitude/dragging).

BB's and CV's should go N and S obviously but in MOST cases BB5 and 6 go S, Meaning IF you want to win you should keep that area blind.

nothing like watching the two CV5/PCVs go north, and the CV1-2s going south (or vice versa). 

now, the argument about vision and how badly your T2 or T3 fighters get blown out of the sky by the top level CV players is irrelavant.  

the question is, why would you sit there and do nothing but try to provide vision?  I use a mixture of TBs and Fighters up at a time, not just strictly fighters (unless I'm out of TBs). I shoot down bombers, provide vision as I can, and "try" to engage other fighters with mixed success.

but with my TBs, I'll go after the subs that nobody seems to be capable of dealing with until they're underfoot blowing everybody up in the line.  I'll target the AA ships shooting down most of the "vision" figthters in the first place since BBs don't consider them to be a threat to be dealt with until their on "cleanup" towards the end of the battle.

I'll even go out of my way to try and steer a BB into their line of fire by torping at them from behind to "spook" them the other way as they try to dodge the torps (and to soften them up for the sub about to smoke them).

of course, getting a free shot at another CV is a good bonus too.

now if only we could take the whinning BB players off their training wheels and advance them into "how to use your scouts effectively" training.

oh yes, another point. if you're one of the lucky owners of a level 120 scout, why not use them on your ship? they can shoot down bombers effectively enough. as well as other scouts.  you could possibly even take down T1 or T2 fighters if they're vetted enough. 

nothing like watching the two CV5/PCVs go north, and the CV1-2s going south (or vice versa). 

now, the argument about vision and how badly your T2 or T3 fighters get blown out of the sky by the top level CV players is irrelavant.  

the question is, why would you sit there and do nothing but try to provide vision?  I use a mixture of TBs and Fighters up at a time, not just strictly fighters (unless I'm out of TBs). I shoot down bombers, provide vision as I can, and "try" to engage other fighters with mixed success.

but with my TBs, I'll go after the subs that nobody seems to be capable of dealing with until they're underfoot blowing everybody up in the line.  I'll target the AA ships shooting down most of the "vision" figthters in the first place since BBs don't consider them to be a threat to be dealt with until their on "cleanup" towards the end of the battle.

I'll even go out of my way to try and steer a BB into their line of fire by torping at them from behind to "spook" them the other way as they try to dodge the torps (and to soften them up for the sub about to smoke them).

of course, getting a free shot at another CV is a good bonus too.

now if only we could take the whinning BB players off their training wheels and advance them into "how to use your scouts effectively" training.

oh yes, another point. if you're one of the lucky owners of a level 120 scout, why not use them on your ship? they can shoot down bombers effectively enough. as well as other scouts.  you could possibly even take down T1 or T2 fighters if they're vetted enough. 

nothing like watching the two CV5/PCVs go north, and the CV1-2s going south (or vice versa). 

now, the argument about vision and how badly your T2 or T3 fighters get blown out of the sky by the top level CV players is irrelavant.  

the question is, why would you sit there and do nothing but try to provide vision?  I use a mixture of TBs and Fighters up at a time, not just strictly fighters (unless I'm out of TBs). I shoot down bombers, provide vision as I can, and "try" to engage other fighters with mixed success.

but with my TBs, I'll go after the subs that nobody seems to be capable of dealing with until they're underfoot blowing everybody up in the line.  I'll target the AA ships shooting down most of the "vision" figthters in the first place since BBs don't consider them to be a threat to be dealt with until their on "cleanup" towards the end of the battle.

I'll even go out of my way to try and steer a BB into their line of fire by torping at them from behind to "spook" them the other way as they try to dodge the torps (and to soften them up for the sub about to smoke them).

of course, getting a free shot at another CV is a good bonus too.

now if only we could take the whinning BB players off their training wheels and advance them into "how to use your scouts effectively" training.

oh yes, another point. if you're one of the lucky owners of a level 120 scout, why not use them on your ship? they can shoot down bombers effectively enough. as well as other scouts.  you could possibly even take down T1 or T2 fighters if they're vetted enough. 

Seems apt.

I don't tell CV players they are the cause of the loss to make them feel bad.  I tell them that because it's true.