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  • Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 07:26


Subman99

And just when you thought the RM BB4 was the example of ridiculous.....now we see RM rentals....120+ knots......HOW was this nation releaased?.....DO NOT claim that the ship line was tested....clearly thats a lie, and looking at the previous post about this...which was locked...why? by the way?...to say RIDICULOUS is putting it mildly...and the comment that the players have been asked to return the rentals.....lol....sorry...this just makes the case that Italy should be pulled period! cant wait to see what the RM BB4 RENTAL will be like....just watched a RM BB2 RENTAL that was AROMOR WHORED doing 48 knots and sank nearly every ship in the GB...doing almost 400K attack....to say goodbye to game balance is putting things mildly.....thanks SDE/TNF for a truly EPIC FAIL.....now go ahead and lock and delete this before too many read this.

 

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 08:20


ussr1222

Well although I dont agree with Subman on lots of other things, but I am with him this time.  RM rental is just way out of balance.   Had a battle with him earlier, put 2 half-salvo of HE on him and 1 half-salvo AP on him, and I only got 8K attack, and I was in a BB5.

Just take a look at the screen shots, doing 48 knots while AWed.

BTW, nice HA Iron.

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 08:25


ljsevern

And as always, when SDE mess up big time, they don't do an emergancy patch to fix it.

Why?

Because they don't care. 

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 08:26


Elliot2lazy

Originally Posted by ussr1222

 

Well although I dont agree with Subman on lots of other things, but I am with him this time. 


+1

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 08:35


mistermetal

Originally Posted by danita

The MN rental only does 59/61.

How about the SN rentals?

i like how you say only. not even a SW lion1 or POW does that! thats faster then most dd's!

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 09:11


BBR_InsUW

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Ban anyone who uses it.

Oh and before you say you can':

C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been 
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.  

Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned.



Actually I would not ban a player for using content that was released m even if poorly designed. This is not the players fault and that is clear.

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 09:17


Plazmadj

Originally Posted by danita

The MN rental only does 59/61.

How about the SN rentals?

 

The only reason people aren't up-in-arms about the MN or SN rentals is because people didn't bring it to the attention of the public yet. 59/61 is fast enough to easily avoid Torps (especially subs) and dodge DBS/TBs without any issues. It's also fast enough to effectively weave while gun fighting to make most BB4/5s miss most of their shots.

To achieve balance, AT LEAST all 3 new nations' rentals should not be used until $DE can review the issues and balance them accordingly.

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 09:38


Kilaenots

Originally Posted by BBR_InsUW

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Ban anyone who uses it.

Oh and before you say you can':

C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been 
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.  

Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned.



Actually I would not ban a player for using content that was released m even if poorly designed. This is not the players fault and that is clear.



Not being rude but you are not doing your job then. TNF have made the right call by asking people not to use. But to the letter of this rule people are breaking it. The fact it is there is SDEs fault, the fact people keep using it is exploiting.

Any exploit you can say was not a players fault because it was added like that but by using it with the knowledge it is a fault is exploiting. Credit hacks, was it the players fault that there was a way to gain credits, no are they exploiting, yes. 

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 10:13


Subman99

Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Originally Posted by Neat

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Originally Posted by Neat

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Ban anyone who uses it.

Oh and before you say you can':

C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been 
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.  

Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned. 



Well why should BS be punished with not using a rental? If you take the RM rentals away until they are fixed, then all rentals for all nations should be taken away until all fleets owning harbors can have balanced content.



Because they are broken, and using them is exploiting the game to achieve a competative advantage. You can perhaps live with no RM rentals for a week whilst it is sorted or you could just exploit a fault. I know if it were my fleet I wouldn't want to be seen exploiting something. Your choice I guess, oh except for the rule you are breaking.



Its not exploiting anything bud. This was known on the test server, and what was done? It was patched into the game!!! I agree they are severely OP, but if you are going to sideline these rentals, then all rentals should be sidelined until ALL RENTALS are fixed. SDE dropped the ball by releasing OP content without fixing it, when this issue was presented to them from test server participants.



No, it wasn't known. I'm not sure where you even got that notion from. The harbors were bugged on the test server and everyone creating their own fleet and declaring on the new harbors didn't help either.  To put it plainly, they weren't able to be tested. Had they been able to, we would have asked them to not be patched in.

At this time, we are asking anyone using the RM rentals to please return them and submit a support ticket for a refund of the rental cost.



How can you POSSIBLY SAY it wasn't known?....supposedly ALL ships are run thru the test server to check for errors/flaws....isn't that whats SUPPOSED to happen to all ships BEFORE being released?....so clearly something INCREDIBLY stupid has happened here....now WHAT is SDE/TNF going to do about it?...just asking people NOT to use it is nothing but a bunch of garbage....as stated by others...the EULA CLEARLY states that using or exploiting errors or glitches inthe game is a BANNABLE offense.....so shouldn't that be the SHORT TERM answer to the problem while it's being sorted out?...but to to that it wasn't known is also one of two things...BOTH of them incredibly stupid...either they wern't ever tested.....or someone just shrugged thier shoulders and said who cares....either way...WHY should anyone put any more money into a game that tosses competitive balance out the window because they either didnt know/care?...answer  is THEY SHOULDNT.....and with efforts like this...if NF3 ever gets launched....are we going to see the same slipshod/sloppy practices there too?.........

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 10:16


Vawlkus

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Originally Posted by BBR_InsUW

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Ban anyone who uses it.

Oh and before you say you can':

C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been 
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.  

Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned.



Actually I would not ban a player for using content that was released m even if poorly designed. This is not the players fault and that is clear.



Not being rude but you are not doing your job then. TNF have made the right call by asking people not to use. But to the letter of this rule people are breaking it. The fact it is there is SDEs fault, the fact people keep using it is exploiting.

Any exploit you can say was not a players fault because it was added like that but by using it with the knowledge it is a fault is exploiting. Credit hacks, was it the players fault that there was a way to gain credits, no are they exploiting, yes. 


It's not an explot if $DE WANTS them to perform this way. By releasing them in their currently broken state, they are tacitly aknowledging that THIS IS THE WAY $DE WANTS THEM TO BE.

 

The fact that the way they are is completely f'ed up is immaterial according to $DE.

 

Anyone else feel like telling $DE the impolite version of "Take a long walk off a short pier"? 'Cause I sure do.

 

  • Re : Italian Rentals

    07. 08. 2012 10:39


KinGWaR
Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Originally Posted by BBR_InsUW

Originally Posted by Kilaenots

Ban anyone who uses it.

Oh and before you say you can':

C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been 
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.  

Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned.



Actually I would not ban a player for using content that was released m even if poorly designed. This is not the players fault and that is clear.



Not being rude but you are not doing your job then. TNF have made the right call by asking people not to use. But to the letter of this rule people are breaking it. The fact it is there is SDEs fault, the fact people keep using it is exploiting.

Any exploit you can say was not a players fault because it was added like that but by using it with the knowledge it is a fault is exploiting. Credit hacks, was it the players fault that there was a way to gain credits, no are they exploiting, yes. 



If people are saying ban the rm Rbb players because they are exploiters they should be pushing for the same thin with the regular Rm bb players, cause both are op just one is to a lesser extent. BBr did his job testers did not

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