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Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 07:26
Subman99
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And just when you thought the RM BB4 was the example of ridiculous.....now we see RM rentals....120+ knots......HOW was this nation releaased?.....DO NOT claim that the ship line was tested....clearly thats a lie, and looking at the previous post about this...which was locked...why? by the way?...to say RIDICULOUS is putting it mildly...and the comment that the players have been asked to return the rentals.....lol....sorry...this just makes the case that Italy should be pulled period! cant wait to see what the RM BB4 RENTAL will be like....just watched a RM BB2 RENTAL that was AROMOR WHORED doing 48 knots and sank nearly every ship in the GB...doing almost 400K attack....to say goodbye to game balance is putting things mildly.....thanks SDE/TNF for a truly EPIC FAIL.....now go ahead and lock and delete this before too many read this.
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 13:21
Vawlkus
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Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by KinGWaR
Tested or not, red flags should come up when values are just flopped together and published, the ships were on the live server for what 3 weeks? And still no one though to glance at it. Also it was known that they were this way on the test server. What the heck happened, why where they still patched??!?
Ask the leaders of the test team, because I know I was never given access to them, otherwise I would have made a huge issue about it.
And how much good would that have done LJ?
Not a damn bit, other than giving you a chance to say "Told you so".
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 13:43
SSN762
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At this point the problem is well documented and every player who had a rental should know that it's an exploit and shouldnt be used in battle.
Yet, we STILL have these things running around the map. That, to me is clear disregard for TNF, a clear violation of the rules and action should be taken.
There's no way this can be excused after being posted and the fleet leaders being informed.
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 13:46
MaskdBandit
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Originally Posted by Vawlkus
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Originally Posted by KinGWaR
Tested or not, red flags should come up when values are just flopped together and published, the ships were on the live server for what 3 weeks? And still no one though to glance at it. Also it was known that they were this way on the test server. What the heck happened, why where they still patched??!?
Ask the leaders of the test team, because I know I was never given access to them, otherwise I would have made a huge issue about it.
And how much good would that have done LJ?
Not a damn bit, other than giving you a chance to say "Told you so".
Either way, LJ does a lot for this game. Had him and the other testers known, I'm fairly confident they would have at least said "this isn't ready yet, don't patch it". Unfortunately, half of the "positive" improvements of this game come as a result of something stupid happening, everyone freaking out about it, the problem finally get fixed as a result of pressure from everyone, and then everyone goes back to complaining about how long it took in the first place and calling TNF, SDE, etc a joke. It's a pretty frustrating cycle of events, but it is the way it is.
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 14:14
devildog8
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Originally Posted by KinGWaR
Originally Posted by Kilaenots
Originally Posted by BBR_InsUW
Originally Posted by Kilaenots
Ban anyone who uses it.
Oh and before you say you can':
C. Rules Related to Game Play.
(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.
Lets just hope that the mods follow the rules and any one using RM rental gets banned.
Actually I would not ban a player for using content that was released m even if poorly designed. This is not the players fault and that is clear.
Not being rude but you are not doing your job then. TNF have made the right call by asking people not to use. But to the letter of this rule people are breaking it. The fact it is there is SDEs fault, the fact people keep using it is exploiting. Any exploit you can say was not a players fault because it was added like that but by using it with the knowledge it is a fault is exploiting. Credit hacks, was it the players fault that there was a way to gain credits, no are they exploiting, yes.
If people are saying ban the rm Rbb players because they are exploiters they should be pushing for the same thin with the regular Rm bb players, cause both are op just one is to a lesser extent. BBr did his job testers did not
agreed
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 15:12
Chief0Milo
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Originally Posted by AlexCaboose
How can I possibly say it wasn't known? Because it wasn't.
TL;DR - We didn't have a chance to test them and had no knowledge of it beforehand. The information has been passed onto the GMs though and I imagine the developers will be working on a fix.
And therein lies the biggest (and most retarded) reason of them all. Why did they give no time to test them?! After the RM nation being released, and completely screwing with balance, and the amount of whining going on about it (mine inc.) they thought "ohhhh f*** it, release them anyways 'coz teh popjoolashun is putten preshure on us!!11" Do they not EVER learn?! Is there no communication between them and TNF so that they can understand just how much of a complete **** up they are being atm?? If there is that communication happening, then what on earth is SDE doing exactly?! Is it South Korea's version of April Fools day today? Coz thats the only excuse I can think of.
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 16:21
AdmHoliday
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Originally Posted by sacpeja
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
It's not BlackSuns fault this rental situation is there and it was quite funny...the first time it showed up in battle. However, this is an unmistakeable error that provides a clearly unfair competitive advantage above and beyond the BB4 situation (that should have been fixed a long time ago) and therefore when continually used .... is an exploit....it's as simple as that. The classy thing for them to do is to stop using them until fixed.
The only reason BS wanted the RM Harbor is due to the unfair competitive advantages the RM ships and harbor would most likely give...the history of OP ships not being fixed quickly...and the fact we all should have known there would be more show up they could have access to and take advantage ingame with. Not to mention there seems to be reports of this problem being known before going live. There was a clear advantage in going after this harbor with potential for even more. Then again...if they didn't take it...someone else would be trying to exploit just the same.
Anyone could have taken this harbor to start with and we all know that, but we also know that BS was going to take it one way or another, simply because of these advantages. Can't say I blame em either. SDE doesn't seem to worry about it so why shouldn't they take it.
Like we need a advantage to compete with other fleets I was more wondering the stability of the new harbors. But yea u know the rentals would be messed up but not this much. I here the mn rentals are pretty fast to not seen the an but I bet ther mistakes there to. BS as a fleet is more than capabile of taking on any fleet without the italy harbor
If you read into what I am saying....I know and we all know BS needs no advantage to take it. They are like the chip leader at the poker table using that big stack and being the bully. We'd all do the same in that situation. What I am saying....is because of that....we all know they would take the RM harbor. The screw ups and advantages is why they want it.....this rental one is just WAY OVER THE TOP. NOW what BS needs to do is show some class.....and not bring any of those things out until the fix is in. After all....you don't need the advantage.....right?!?
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 16:31
maxflo
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Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
Originally Posted by sacpeja
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
It's not BlackSuns fault this rental situation is there and it was quite funny...the first time it showed up in battle. However, this is an unmistakeable error that provides a clearly unfair competitive advantage above and beyond the BB4 situation (that should have been fixed a long time ago) and therefore when continually used .... is an exploit....it's as simple as that. The classy thing for them to do is to stop using them until fixed.
The only reason BS wanted the RM Harbor is due to the unfair competitive advantages the RM ships and harbor would most likely give...the history of OP ships not being fixed quickly...and the fact we all should have known there would be more show up they could have access to and take advantage ingame with. Not to mention there seems to be reports of this problem being known before going live. There was a clear advantage in going after this harbor with potential for even more. Then again...if they didn't take it...someone else would be trying to exploit just the same.
Anyone could have taken this harbor to start with and we all know that, but we also know that BS was going to take it one way or another, simply because of these advantages. Can't say I blame em either. SDE doesn't seem to worry about it so why shouldn't they take it.
Like we need a advantage to compete with other fleets I was more wondering the stability of the new harbors. But yea u know the rentals would be messed up but not this much. I here the mn rentals are pretty fast to not seen the an but I bet ther mistakes there to. BS as a fleet is more than capabile of taking on any fleet without the italy harbor
If you read into what I am saying....I know and we all know BS needs no advantage to take it. They are like the chip leader at the poker table using that big stack and being the bully. We'd all do the same in that situation. What I am saying....is because of that....we all know they would take the RM harbor. The screw ups and advantages is why they want it.....this rental one is just WAY OVER THE TOP. NOW what BS needs to do is show some class.....and not bring any of those things out until the fix is in. After all....you don't need the advantage.....right?!?
Are you high ??
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 16:45
AdmHoliday
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Originally Posted by maxflo
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
Originally Posted by sacpeja
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
It's not BlackSuns fault this rental situation is there and it was quite funny...the first time it showed up in battle. However, this is an unmistakeable error that provides a clearly unfair competitive advantage above and beyond the BB4 situation (that should have been fixed a long time ago) and therefore when continually used .... is an exploit....it's as simple as that. The classy thing for them to do is to stop using them until fixed.
The only reason BS wanted the RM Harbor is due to the unfair competitive advantages the RM ships and harbor would most likely give...the history of OP ships not being fixed quickly...and the fact we all should have known there would be more show up they could have access to and take advantage ingame with. Not to mention there seems to be reports of this problem being known before going live. There was a clear advantage in going after this harbor with potential for even more. Then again...if they didn't take it...someone else would be trying to exploit just the same.
Anyone could have taken this harbor to start with and we all know that, but we also know that BS was going to take it one way or another, simply because of these advantages. Can't say I blame em either. SDE doesn't seem to worry about it so why shouldn't they take it.
Like we need a advantage to compete with other fleets I was more wondering the stability of the new harbors. But yea u know the rentals would be messed up but not this much. I here the mn rentals are pretty fast to not seen the an but I bet ther mistakes there to. BS as a fleet is more than capabile of taking on any fleet without the italy harbor
If you read into what I am saying....I know and we all know BS needs no advantage to take it. They are like the chip leader at the poker table using that big stack and being the bully. We'd all do the same in that situation. What I am saying....is because of that....we all know they would take the RM harbor. The screw ups and advantages is why they want it.....this rental one is just WAY OVER THE TOP. NOW what BS needs to do is show some class.....and not bring any of those things out until the fix is in. After all....you don't need the advantage.....right?!?
Are you high ??
Why....not at all...conversation above your IQ level?
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 16:55
sacpeja
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Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
Originally Posted by sacpeja
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
It's not BlackSuns fault this rental situation is there and it was quite funny...the first time it showed up in battle. However, this is an unmistakeable error that provides a clearly unfair competitive advantage above and beyond the BB4 situation (that should have been fixed a long time ago) and therefore when continually used .... is an exploit....it's as simple as that. The classy thing for them to do is to stop using them until fixed.
The only reason BS wanted the RM Harbor is due to the unfair competitive advantages the RM ships and harbor would most likely give...the history of OP ships not being fixed quickly...and the fact we all should have known there would be more show up they could have access to and take advantage ingame with. Not to mention there seems to be reports of this problem being known before going live. There was a clear advantage in going after this harbor with potential for even more. Then again...if they didn't take it...someone else would be trying to exploit just the same.
Anyone could have taken this harbor to start with and we all know that, but we also know that BS was going to take it one way or another, simply because of these advantages. Can't say I blame em either. SDE doesn't seem to worry about it so why shouldn't they take it.
Like we need a advantage to compete with other fleets I was more wondering the stability of the new harbors. But yea u know the rentals would be messed up but not this much. I here the mn rentals are pretty fast to not seen the an but I bet ther mistakes there to. BS as a fleet is more than capabile of taking on any fleet without the italy harbor
If you read into what I am saying....I know and we all know BS needs no advantage to take it. They are like the chip leader at the poker table using that big stack and being the bully. We'd all do the same in that situation. What I am saying....is because of that....we all know they would take the RM harbor. The screw ups and advantages is why they want it.....this rental one is just WAY OVER THE TOP. NOW what BS needs to do is show some class.....and not bring any of those things out until the fix is in. After all....you don't need the advantage.....right?!?
No we dont need the advantage. Tbh it a blast running around the map at insane speeds i know most people would try it once to get a giggle out of it. I personnal have not used them since tnf (bbr) asked last night
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Re : Italian Rentals
07. 08. 2012 17:41
maxflo
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Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
Originally Posted by maxflo
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
Originally Posted by sacpeja
Originally Posted by AdmHoliday
It's not BlackSuns fault this rental situation is there and it was quite funny...the first time it showed up in battle. However, this is an unmistakeable error that provides a clearly unfair competitive advantage above and beyond the BB4 situation (that should have been fixed a long time ago) and therefore when continually used .... is an exploit....it's as simple as that. The classy thing for them to do is to stop using them until fixed.
The only reason BS wanted the RM Harbor is due to the unfair competitive advantages the RM ships and harbor would most likely give...the history of OP ships not being fixed quickly...and the fact we all should have known there would be more show up they could have access to and take advantage ingame with. Not to mention there seems to be reports of this problem being known before going live. There was a clear advantage in going after this harbor with potential for even more. Then again...if they didn't take it...someone else would be trying to exploit just the same.
Anyone could have taken this harbor to start with and we all know that, but we also know that BS was going to take it one way or another, simply because of these advantages. Can't say I blame em either. SDE doesn't seem to worry about it so why shouldn't they take it.
Like we need a advantage to compete with other fleets I was more wondering the stability of the new harbors. But yea u know the rentals would be messed up but not this much. I here the mn rentals are pretty fast to not seen the an but I bet ther mistakes there to. BS as a fleet is more than capabile of taking on any fleet without the italy harbor
If you read into what I am saying....I know and we all know BS needs no advantage to take it. They are like the chip leader at the poker table using that big stack and being the bully. We'd all do the same in that situation. What I am saying....is because of that....we all know they would take the RM harbor. The screw ups and advantages is why they want it.....this rental one is just WAY OVER THE TOP. NOW what BS needs to do is show some class.....and not bring any of those things out until the fix is in. After all....you don't need the advantage.....right?!?
Are you high ??
Why....not at all...conversation above your IQ level?
Yes, yes it is..... 3+3=97.4 correct ?
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