Had 4 boosted engies with base 10 and 11 plus 2 non-boosted with base 12.
Engies were more or less the same level as the bo.

"I had 41knts at-level and 42knts in the late 90s. Still had some bulge on.
That's good enough for me. "

odd, I played a 85-95 crew (11 and 12 base) with 5 engies and could not break 40 knts...
interesting.

"No at-lvl player can make 42 knts. And high lvl guys shouldn't be able to make 42 without
having Zero torp protection and/or not having full crew on."

I had 41knts at-level and 42knts in the late 90s. Still had some bulge on.
That's good enough for me.

Has anyone tryed reload gunners on the vanguard?

Because of 11/11 base, 140 vets full experts ive rached the reload and accuracy
cap easily (post max ability buff patch -> [17.92s / 100*40 = 7.17s] )
if you compare that to the Iowa, wich is slightly lower

with that reload i can put out enough shots to compete against all BB4's. (h39 and yammy i
find abit harder to take on)
and if a can land 2 perfect salvo's they will be crippled/dead but because that rarely
happens it can take 4 or more just to get them down to half DP.

against any bb5 though i may aswell not bother....

L1, QV, take your pick.

With regards to the vanguard, I was pointing out that you can't say "Oh UK is meant to
have slow reload" when it doesn't have the other UK stats.

"I love the new vanny!_! The extra range puts the guns on par with the iowa. The
spread is not great but definitly not bad. I was uprised that the duel guns hit as
hard as they did. In GB's i find the Vanny hard to play. But in BB1-4 rooms it is one of
the best ships. It can go 42 knots with the proper gun set up. I am sorry but what is
the problem with the ship? "

Range is less than the iowa, what you are seeing is an exploitable gunnery angle difference.

The spread is worst of all bb4's I've played at 120, and US BB3 like at lvl.

You have the weakest shell of the bb4 (though you are nearly on par with H39... the spread
of the H39 gets it more damage per salvo)

No at-lvl player can make 42 knts. And high lvl guys shouldn't be able to make 42 without
having Zero torp protection and/or not having full crew on.

And yes, these are problems with this ship. :)

LJ
"UK is meant to have the highest damage per shell, lowest range, and good durability. "
That is the L1 you are describing... we aren't going to have two L1's are we? I was
under the impression that the vanny was going to have high range for a BB4 and weak shell
for a BB4. I know you can't discuss this, but just wanted to throw it out there.

"The other BB4s are suppose to reload faster than you. You sacriface reload for
spread in UK. So no, I don't see it as a problem at all."

Agreed, but currently the vanguard has the worst spread of all the BB4's, and the worst
damage.

UK is meant to have the highest damage per shell, lowest range, and good durability.

There are still some tweaks that need to be made with the Vanny which has also be
noted by others that have played pre and post patch.

I'm not saying that it doesn't play good now because it does depending on who is in
a GB game I get anything from 60k-150k attack but there are still some things that
need adjusting because its still not 100% playable.

I'm sure ONF will do there best with it.

just to say i like vanny

I love the new vanny!_! The extra range puts the guns on par with the iowa. The
spread is not great but definitly not bad. I was uprised that the duel guns hit as
hard as they did. In GB's i find the Vanny hard to play. But in BB1-4 rooms it is one of
the best ships. It can go 42 knots with the proper gun set up. I am sorry but what is
the problem with the ship?