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  • How to make proper IJN DP

    05. 13. 2008 17:36

longrooster
Now i have seen many questions in regard to IJN Anti-Air :
- Do i use Machine gunners, DP, AA etc.
- How do i properly train my ____ gunners
- What base should i need to make a good set of ____ gunners

Since i was tired of seeing these questions over and over again, i decided to make a
final post as to what to do... Feel free to correct what i say, and i can edit my post
accordingly.

For the first question, - Do i use Machine gunners, DP, AA, RLD etc. :
Very simple, IJN has CRAP AAW so Machine gunners make your AAW only some what
acceptable so machine gunners = WAIST OF TIME AND $.
The AA guns are just plain and simply JUNK so ... NO.
Wich only leave ... DP GUNNERS, they can use the long range DP 4.7''/45 Type 10.
They have UBER range for AA, Good reload with good dp gunners, nice spread at
higher levels, so in other words, UBER!
So incase you didnt notice, DP guns are the way to go!

For the Second question, - How do i properly train/class my DP gunners :
I heard many rumours saying that the longer you wait to class your DP, the better,
so i decided first hand to test this theory.
I first trained a set of dp gunners trained ''the normal way'' wich is :Class em when
you can. This gave horrible results so i would not recommend it to anyone.

The second set i trained were trained up to level 62, as normal ARMAMENT SAILORS
and at level 62, classed them to Chf. DP gunners. These gunners gave exellent
results compared to the first set.

The third set was trained up to level 75, they gave better results then the two other
sets but were frustrating to train because they took up valid support slots (causing
SD lose).

So i would recommend by far waiting as long as you can before classing them, if you
can, but if you cant, wait until minimum lvl 62 (for chf dp gunner).

Finally for the third question regarding the base, i could not really do any tests on
the theorys for what to look for so what i did for the three different sets was buy
some 11 acc. 11 rel. 10 aaw gunners ( i would of did 11 11 11 but i could not find
any ) now from personal experience, these gunners work wonderfully. The most
important stat of the three is, imho, Reload, because as your level goes up when
they are DP gunners, they gain ALOT in AAW (wich is junk anyways) compared to Acc
and Rel, as compared to at Arm sailors when they make more in Acc and Rel as
compared to AAW wich explains why u want to wait as long as you can (once again
incase you didnt figure it out on your own, its because you want to gain as much
reload and accuracy as you can).

Now i hope my answers are correct and will help you in your training of a nice set of
DP. And i remind you that i would greatly appreciate feed back and if there is one of
my answer i have said that you do not agree with, i will DEFINATLY look into it and
see if i was correct or wrong, and if wrong, modify the post accordingly

Longrooster XD



-------------------------------------- EDIT
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Here's some more information thanks to a question someone asked :
Waiting up to level 75 instead of 62 allowed me to gain +7 in acc +7 in Rel and +8 in
AAW per level, so it benefited in the three, compared to when u class at 62 you only
gain sumthing like +2 / lvl in AAW so you gain in all 3 significantly as compared to
when u class them at lvl 62, you only gain in AAW. As for the reload cap, i dont recall
when i hit it so if anyone brought there DP up the way i did then maybe help specify
on this .
*** you cant forget for the cap that it depends on the base of your sailor and if its
BVE. I would always recommend BVE your sailors because it helps them drasticly.

Longrooster







Edit-

Its common sense to those who know how NF works. And this is a good guide for
those who dont.
Given pride of place among the top IJN Posts

Ricwin666

ps. I'm happy enough with mine, converted at 48. Out-perform level 75's :)
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  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    07. 11. 2008 12:52

do_Ob
i need to work on this since im sailing with my B65

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    07. 11. 2008 08:30

Admiral_mush
Gee i wish i had this guide earlier otherwise i wouldnt have selected machine
gunners =S

Extremely helpful =D

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 30. 2008 02:28

BauBau
Well i classed my IJN AA when promotions became available (except for the first one which
i did at lvl 30 instead of 20 after a friend told me about the crew loss and possible loss
of true ability)

The ships i leveled the IJN AA were:
lvl 1-35 - Emden
lvl 35-55 - Moltke, D-land, P-pro
lvl 55-75 - Andreea Doria, O-pro, B65
lvl 75-105 - Yamato and Super Yamato

I haven't seen any noticeable improvement since arround lvl 95 so I'd say that they hit
their cap arround that lvl.
Their bases 11 accuracy/ 13 reload/ 9 AAW (Elite Reload gunners)

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 20. 2008 13:46

Sayoyin
I calculated on excel the true ability for IJN DP gunners classing normally, at lv42, at
lv62 and unclassed (only arm sailor classing). Assuming full experts but no vets, the
true ability when compared against the normally classed DP gunners:


The results show that the best path would be to class at lv62. But taking vets on
consideration, things change. Assuming max vets up to 109:


Unclassed arm sailors are better in this case. It all boils down to how many vets you put
on you sailor. If only go up to 109, then the longer the arm sailor remain unclassed the
better (your 109 vets will benefit from better ability).

But if you go beyond the 40% limit that unclassed arm sailors have, then the ones classed
at lv62 might be better. But I really doubt too many people are willing to go up to 200+
vets in any case. xD

Larger crew size could also help MWing for experts to try converting vets.

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 18. 2008 12:35

Alyx
bump

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 15. 2008 20:57

longrooster
and the topic dies down lol

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 10. 2008 09:43

dumbkauf
What is the Rld cap for IJN AA/DP gunners? and what is a decent Rld number once or
around 85th lvl?

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 08. 2008 08:40

longrooster
haha no problem :P

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 06. 2008 22:49

Lefe
Thanks longrooster this is a great guide. It has been a good help creating my ijn DP
gunners.

  • Re : How to make proper IJN DP

    06. 03. 2008 18:44

longrooster
Fartyfrog, DP stands for dual purpose :D
And dont wory about asking questions and looking like a noob cus its better to ask
em and learn then to stay clueless right?
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