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POLL: Italian BB4
03. 26. 2012 09:46
Elliot2lazy
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This ship is so overpowered it puts subs to shame. BB4 that is the size of an atlanta, that can 2 shot bb6s, and has low angle degree guns. People though russia was OP, but they look balanced compared to ALL Italian BBs.
EDIT: Who thinks it is overpowered? Yes or No
I've tallied the votes.
Out of 52 people saying either OP or not, 12 people claim it is not OP. That means 40 people claim it is OP content.
Not OP %: ~23% (12/52)
It is OP %: ~77% (40/52)
I have written it all down on this google doc. here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ak62AhANtRUUdGFoSXM2WTVxdFljeWU2SGFHNkUzSXc&output=html
EDIT: If you think the RM BB4s are overpowered, then what are the traits on the ship that need to be nerfed to make the ship balanced?
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 26. 2012 23:32
tappo01
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Where is the crap spread everyone is talking about? It can land at least 50% on normal sized ships (Montana/H39/H44) which means they will be most likely crippled after the first salvo.
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 00:16
miet_
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It's not the overpowered content but noob players... and decreesing skill on server.
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 01:27
quietcos
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At first I thought it was OP - it has huge range especially for 25 lasers, and it's hard to hit with more than a couple of shells. But then when I discovered it's made of paper I thought it wasn't so bad.
I'm wouldn't be surprised if it needed to be nerfed, but I would be surprised if it was buffed. In any case, I think it needs more time to tell.
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 03:12
ljsevern
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Originally Posted by tlui22
Originally Posted by hiroito
Originally Posted by tlui22
Originally Posted by tappo01
Originally Posted by Bigboss92
Useful tip: Learn to aim :D
Another tip: try to use your brain once in a while. The RM BB4's at the moment have no weakness.
ok, nerf h39's range nerf yamato's damage and AA iowa is decent nerf the lion's armor nerf the range of ussr bb4 nerf the mn's bb4 aa is this sounds good to you then?
Nerf H39 range? Fine, give it 45k+ for each full salvo, currently at around 34k per full salvo. Nerf Yamato Damage and AA? Fine, but give them more range. Iowa stays the same. Nerf lion's armor? Give faster reload speed/ better submergence. Nerf range of SN BB4? Don't know about it, but I think there is an scheduled nerf to this. Nerf MN BB4 AA? Fine, Deliver the "High damage output" promised (Curretnly at around 37k per salvo). That sounds fair to me, but that would require a mayor overhaul of the Nations and what nations have what perks.
you got the point here, this is nation's advantage, so why do people keep saying italy? because they are lazy to grind? well, montana and mn bb5 bascially can one shot any BB4, even a super yamato not with 100% sd, so why people dont ask to nerf its damage? because people are whinning.
Montana and MN BB5's are BB5's, not BB4's. We are talking about BB4's here.
Originally Posted by miet_
It's not the overpowered content but noob players... and decreesing skill on server.
The skill has always been terrible in general. But I guess before the PBB's were nerfed, that content was fine, right?
Anyone that has a clue about game balance and the mechanics of the game knows Italy is hugely flawed, so threads like these are really useful to see who doesn't have a clue about game balance.
I wonder how many of the people who don't want the nerf to Italy are the ones grinding and playing this ship constantly over say, the BB5...
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 03:41
BernardHenri
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Small size, hard/nearly impossible to land a full salvo
Crazy submergence
Lazer guns -> lulz wat iz angles? / luls wat iz armor?
Damage normal/high for a BB4
Range seems to be high
Speed is correct/high
Of course it's overpowered, less than the Le Havre with EBB1 guns, but still...
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 04:04
NIborGER
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This submergency is OP thing is fail. It has pretty much average subermgency for a bb4. Much less wount be possible. Currently APHC is somewhere at 4000, the maximum is 4500, like most bb5s and all bb6s have. SO everyone complaining about RM bb4 subergency doesnt know anything about the game and should try to find valid arguments and not tell lies.
Beside that, yes its OP but not too much. Basicly its as OP as Stalingrad is. A bit nerfing should do it.
btw the dmg is total average. Yamma, iowa and L1 score more, H39, richel and vanguard do less dmg.
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 04:34
tappo01
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Originally Posted by NIborGER
Beside that, yes its OP but not too much. Basicly its as OP as Stalingrad is. A bit nerfing should do it.
I dont see Stalingrads costantly obliterating the enemy team on its own, at least you can dodge its shells.
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 04:34
Piombo
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Originally Posted by ixixi
don't worry, if it really over powered, it will be nerfed finally,
when french db had over range and bomb damage was over powered, and its pcv can send 12 airplanes, I send a ticket to TNF, and was told what was the nature of this nation. or i won't level up MN cv since I already have IJN cv with 8 bombers and 4 fighters.
but, finally, nerfed anyway. I have to sell MN cv crew.
remeber, don't level up new nation just because you want its temporary advantage, you will feel disappoint finally.
+1 best statement yet
I agree i started RM as soon it was released saw many issues in my grind even in the low lvls also saw and read the test forums about RM decided to quit RM due to the Fact the next few patches contian Nerfs for RM to adjust its OP and other issues so quit ur bitchen and help provide content on issues instead of BS ranting its the same for MN SN aswell and if there was any thing to ever complain about its the Nerfs KM has had over the 7+yrs i want a Beta H44 back and the 110 guns fixed ect ect ect .so take ur G strings off and chill these rants are not going to provide any support to improve the issues
OP example SN BB3 Imp - now fixed
also as stated before MN EBB3 OP AW - Waiting to be fixed
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 04:42
BernardHenri
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Hmm 3 or 4 days ago, I managed to land a full salvo on a RM BB4, driving a nebby. It wasn't a kill, and I had already damaged it before ... So to me, the submergence doesn't seem average.
But yeah I don't know how it works. It may be because the shot was at angle 26 and the salvo scored only 35k instead of 55K?
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Re : POLL: Italian BB4
03. 27. 2012 04:51
NewYorkBoy
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Just by some of you guys reply i can tell you lack skills..I've 2 shotted L2s with Iowa...I've 1 shotted H44 with Yammy. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??? you guys have no point..the game is crap right now when talkin about skill level..I've been doing 120k per in the crappy BB2 and my crew isn't uber. Be cause players fail. This the worst i've seen NF skill level. So estrelle getting 450k isn't hard against Straight line drivers who never turn or anything.
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