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EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 01. 2013 19:00
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:09
ubootwaffe99
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Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Originally Posted by ubootwaffe99
....on this forum i can see RN vangard can go 42knt and useing lion2 guns which have almost same range as h44 guns (h44 have max 2mm more range)
Please point out where it says that, because it is completely inaccurate.
Johnichus type it One question nyerkovic Is it posible to get j39 goeing 38knt on light weight set up on which h39/41 can reach 40knt???
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:10
Bergy1972
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These guys ( uboatwaffe99 and johnichus) are so clueless and ungrateful it is a pain reading their comments.
Nyer no matter what you tell them, they can't see it, their to blind
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:20
johnichus
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Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Quoting the BB6 is not meaningless, it shows you what the nation is able to do when played correctly in similar situations.
Slingshoting is a dangerous moment, sure, but when done right it can't be matched. KM is a very dificult nation to master, specifically because of this. The playstyle is very unique, but it is one of the best nations available when this is achieved.
"plz give me j39 23/39 with normal setting" -> You want an H44, this is not it. Sorry.
The J39 has more power and more range than a BB4 and has less speed than the BB5, that is the place where it needs to be and when played correctly, it can be quite an advantage.
I hv already got h39, 41, 44, I know their advantages. For J39, i just wana say it's the worst of them. The speed of j39 affects surival in gb (remember SS, DBS, TBS, rusher BB small BB3) H39/41 is a competive bb4 which get low damage but with good range and speed. H44 needs skill to master but it's not a good bb5 for newbie. The speed of it is ok. OK, you tell me the advantage of j39 in gb. How to counter AW L1, fast MN BB4, short RM bb4
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:34
ubootwaffe99
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Originally Posted by Bergy1972
These guys ( uboatwaffe99 and johnichus) are so clueless and ungrateful it is a pain reading their comments. Nyer no matter what you tell them, they can't see it, their to blind
I am on this forum which have topic about new ships to fined out are they any good to get I will not post here if i know all retard , so yea i am clueless about new ships and use this topic to fined out are they any good From my point of view H41 is much beter I can see only one adventage of J39 over H41 thats damage per salvo , h41 still have same range,faster ...... and most important of all one support slot more
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:36
johnichus
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Originally Posted by Bergy1972
These guys ( uboatwaffe99 and johnichus) are so clueless and ungrateful it is a pain reading their comments. Nyer no matter what you tell them, they can't see it, their to blind
I know the advantage and weakness of them but i duno know why km is always suffer from high tier bb like bb4/5. Bsm patched before (improved) H39 patched before (improved) H44 patched before (improved) Why dun think more about the actual situation that km bb4/5 facing (not much range advantage with low fire power) Now: h39/41 has speed to face it; h44 gets it's better gun. how abt this j39, normal fire power with slow speed The trade off is large that why not much old players suggest newbie to try km bb line for the first nation.
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:53
War5pite
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Originally Posted by ubootwaffe99
I can see in this test team just Km haters (if RN realy go 42knt with lion2 guns)
LOL - actually surprised it took soo long for that lame excuse to be used :) And as mentioned Vanguard cannot carry L2 guns, maybe it should now you bring it up :)
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 09:58
ubootwaffe99
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Originally Posted by johnichus
I know the advantage and weakness of them but i duno know why km is always suffer from high tier bb like bb4/5.
KM have best bb4 hard to play but whean you master it beast
Km bb5 is also good if no way OP lion2 he will be among best bb5s for my play stayle best bb5 . Why is lion2 so OP nobody know probably that noobs can also have fun in this game
KM ships are hard to play but whean you handle tham they will show you their real potentional
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 10:06
nyerkovic
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Originally Posted by ubootwaffe99
Johnichus type it
One question nyerkovic
Is it posible to get j39 goeing 38knt on light weight set up on which h39/41 can reach 40knt???
Please refer to the test team's posts for more accurate information. At the start of this thread you can find a detailed explanation of the guns in the ships. Vanguard can't use L2 guns. About it going 38knt with light weight setup. We tested multiple setups, but I can't say right now if there is absolutely no way that could happen. If you can find the right weight/ability mix, in theory you may be able to.
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 10:13
johnichus
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Originally Posted by ubootwaffe99
KM have best bb4 hard to play but whean you master it beast
Km bb5 is also good if no way OP lion2 he will be among best bb5s for my play stayle best bb5 . Why is lion2 so OP nobody know probably that noobs can also have fun in this game
KM ships are hard to play but whean you handle tham they will show you their real potentional
KM bb5 was bad before the patch last few year(i forgot which year). KM style is too passive when it run slow speed. Enemy bb4/5 can wait u rush/slingshot and fire a salvo but the fire power is not competive. I would say i dun like using a ship runing 22/37(if it is AWL1/AWL2, kaiser, fine) If it's h44, omg.
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Re : EBB / ECV Release - October 2013
10. 03. 2013 10:23
nyerkovic
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Originally Posted by johnichus
OK, you tell me the advantage of j39 in gb.
How to counter AW L1, fast MN BB4, short RM bb4
KM ships generally do not shine in GB unless played by a very skilled player. It is not an easy nation to use.
How to counter those ships is already explained before. Slingshot, range management and AA to blind them.
Originally Posted by johnichus
Why dun think more about the actual situation that km bb4/5 facing (not much range advantage with low fire power) Now: h39/41 has speed to face it; h44 gets it's better gun.
how abt this j39, normal fire power with slow speed
The trade off is large that why not much old players suggest newbie to try km bb line for the first nation.
Old players do not suggest KM to a new player not because of the "trade off" you mention, but because it is a very hard nation to master. It is one of the best nations out there, despite the low damage and fragile ships and many players will agree to that statement. I don't know what is the current situation you see. High end KM ships have very good firepower (although low in their tiers) and the best range out there, which is quite noticeable when played in the right way. It is quite a challenge to play against a skilled KM player. H44 and J39 share guns and the J39 hull has in general better stats than the H41, the only drawback is the couple knots it loses to gain the bigger and better gun. All this place the ship exactly in the middle between the BB4 and BB5.
Originally Posted by johnichus
KM bb5 was bad before the patch last few year(i forgot which year).
KM style is too passive when it run slow speed. Enemy bb4/5 can wait u rush/slingshot and fire a salvo but the fire power is not competive.
I would say i dun like using a ship runing 22/37(if it is AWL1/AWL2, kaiser, fine)
If it's h44, omg.
H44 was an amazing ship before the patch. It still is now because the damage consistency was improved, but that was the only thing that changed. It is also one of the hardest ships to learn how to play. I believe your biggest issue is not the ships, nor the speed. It is the KM traits and playstyle which you find too passive. There are other nations with a more active playstyle.
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