read beter that site and you will see plane with sonar didnt existed
ASW plane and plane with sonar is not same , plane was most succesfull asw in ww2 because sub was 2x faster on surface and subs didnt have radar sub crew duty was to spot ships which they can do only on surface , as i sayed sub was 99% on surface becouse she was alwayes hunting only german type XXI had sonar and radar but produced to late to talk about XXI as militery machine of ww2 .XXI went only on test mission no war patrol has bean made
With reading all german secret codes from enigma planes was alwayes comeing on subs which make tham most sucesfull asw of ww2 + whean sub hide from plane underwater  is slow and cant spot ships and conwoys will safely go to thier destination 

Main tactic of allied asw was to force u boat undrwater that conwoy can escape  

 

From that article:

"Although sonobuoys had been developed in 1941, the concept was not fully endorsed"

 

Sonobuoys were in prototype form only and were rarely used.  They are not something that this game should implement.  Honestly, shouldn't we be trying to get the game's existing content fixed before we start adding something as game-changing as sonobuoys?

i'm actually one of the very few cv's that still use an escort (for sonar), when you play during the day, you can count the amount of escorts used effectively on 1 hand.


escorts & warning cv's that they're rushing or running into a sub
are things that used to be.. with the decline of brains used in a GB these things are no longer the standard.



i agree on fixing the content, and don't think the CV should be edited until the SS/ASW discussion is fininshed. Until then CV's should remain capable to function in an asw role, as they did in the war. 

 

They did function in an asw role but not with sonar (because of course, they didn't have sonar).  They were out there with DE's and DDs.  They sent out planes to look for subs on the surface and were screened by their escort vessels.  The CVs themselves did not function as asw.  It was the planes they carried that did the job.

 

 

BALANCE or you just wanted the SS pawn the rest of the enemy team

 

Are you paying attention to anything I've written?  Mabye even just one sentence?  The CV itself, as a ship, is not a threat to a submarine.  It is the planes that are the threat.  If a CV driver wants to be ASW, he should be watching the red dots as soon as they appear to see where the subs are going.  Then he launches his torpedo bombers and kills them while they are battling friendly subs.  If the sub is getting close, the escort that he should have with him will spot the submarine and the CV can launch HH or use bombers again.  Players in DDs and CLs should be escorting the battle line too, to spot subs as they get there and allow ships carrying ASW weapons to do the job.

 

There is no reason whatsoever to be putting sonar on a CV, mainly because there is no basis in any form of reality or any digital dimension for believing that sonar would, could, or should be operable in any meaningful way on a Carrier.

 

Get your head out of the clouds and read more carefully.

 

Furthermore, this rock-paper-scissor argument is ridiculous since any well-driven ship with the right kind of situation could expect to do well against any class of ship in the game.  I've lost count of the number of high level BBs that I've sunk with a Brooklyn and if BB is supposed to be better than CV, why are so many BBs killed by bombers?  And don't try to say that it's because AA ships aren't doing their job.  It's because a good BW CV is doing his job.

 

A well-driven CV has no need of sonar anyway, so get rid of it.

There were some designated super-slow un-armored planes that would carry either flares to mark SS heading or one depth charge, they had crude radar that could pick up the periscope, but  it was rare the plane actually ever saw its prey.  If the sub was a few days from safe waters, the plane/CV would usually win.  Plane was rarely launched from anything from the smallest, flimsyest CV.


SDE get rid of CV sonar and people would buy more PHH.