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  • CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 11:18


mikkicd

im currently lvling a crew on a CV (BW)...and in almost every game someone is making derogatory comments....telling CV how to play...

i.e. .... 
VISION !!!!!!!
NEED FC !!!!
etc.

i contribute to the game as much as i can,,,usually sinking 1 or 2 ships per battle (average),and consistently rank in top 5 in attack.

and yet, still am the recipient of remarks.
if a BB wants vision......use your scout.
i  just wish ppl would be mature enough to realize that every player has their own style of play.

my job is to sink ships...as everyone elses is, but its hard to do when,the majority are going after BB and ignoring AA.

i just wanted to get this out there...comments are always appreciated

 

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 11:21


AlexCaboose

I sometimes ask BW CVs to keep their planes in the area above the enemy once they've dropped their bombs. Though people would love to think otherwise, this game is all about team effort at heart.

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 11:42


Kilaenots

"my job is to sink ships...as everyone elses is, but its hard to do when,the majority are going after BB and ignoring AA."

I'm sorry it is your job to sink ships so you sink the aa and leave the scouting to bbs.

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:00


mistermetal

do you have a scoutpilot on your BW? If not, go get one, then come again.

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:04


A326411

"i contribute to the game as much as i can,,,usually sinking 1 or 2 ships per battle (average),and consistently rank in top 5 in attack.

and yet, still am the recipient of remarks.
if a BB wants vision......use your scout.
i  just wish ppl would be mature enough to realize that every player has their own style of play.

my job is to sink ships...as everyone elses is, but its hard to do when,the majority are going after BB and ignoring AA."

 

Your style of play is all wrong in my opinion and it's just my opinion.

BB's use scouts, but when your CV's let the other side fighter camp you, you cannot launch a scout. they'll be shot down fast. Seems a lot of CV players don't realize this. I constantly watch CV's send bombers into a wave of fighters that are coming and the bombers get chewed up. CV's need to get air superiority, once this happens then send bombers. Or send a wave of fighters with bombers.

Your job is to sink AA boats, keep your BB's from being fighter camped. Towards the end of the battle then start bombing the other CV's and BB's.

As a BB player I will try to sink AA and torp whores if they get in range before BB's do. Sometimes you have to take out BB's first to get to AA's.

 

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:10


AlexCaboose

I always try to sink AA boats. That being said, if another BB is shooting at me, I usually have to take it out first. I carry scouts on my BB though because I understand that if I want sight in a specific area, I can only count on myself to scout. That being said, it can be extremely difficult when there are fighters right above my head unless I have a 120 scout on that nation (and on my new crew, I don't yet).

 

An issue I see coming from both BB AND CV drivers alike is not micromanaging planes. All too often, I see BBs or CVs with their planes circling their ship or chasing an enemy plane all the way across the map (scouts). As a whole, if people watched these things slightly more and tried to work together as a team then vision would be greatly improved.

 

Oftentimes, if I see that our South is well lit up by other people scouting, I will send mine to the middle or North to light up those areas of the map. Does this benefit my personal attack? Not at all. However, it allows my team to win, and in the end, all I care about is winning. 

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:44


Mezak76

Originally Posted by AlexCaboose

Though people would love to think otherwise, this game is all about team effort at heart.



Alex you are right in this point, and NF shuold be a team effort team, but sadly, i think that point of view is utopic. Team Effot is loosing  in NF

1  - Most  player don´t care about ther team-mates, like our CV friend here. He claims to sink two ships average, good for him... how many times he sunk before most of BB in his team were sunk?.. 
2 - BB´s Over-population: En Kiaser sever a GB usuallt starts with 40 players. 20BB, 6 CV, 4 to 6 SS and the rest. Only 5 ships per side to do AA and ASW duties. Most of them are new players that rush and sunk fast. Most BB don´t have AA guns, so... to kill cmaping FP the CVs are the last solution (all BB´s shout " need FP here")
3 -  All focus of players today is in only have a BB6, thas it. Don´t want to do anything else. I read in other posts some ideas like a super destroyer L55. Maybe would be interesting to expand this concept to AA ships, like a super AA ship LVL 80 or higher. 

Last 7 days my team loose some games with an advantage 8 to 4 BB´s because of this lack of colaboration. Personally that this is one on main pointswhy NF is losing players.

I hope this can help to have a better game. 

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:45


tappo01

I fully support CV bashing, maybe if everyone else did the same CVs would stop playing like retards.

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 12:56


CNR4806

Your BW CV claiming to "sink a ship or two every game" is a hell lot less constructive than a CV properly supporting their team's BB5/6s which dish out several times your bombing runs' damage every salvo.

And to be honest, most BB players are laughing and eating popcorns as your bombers get fried by enemy AA. We enjoy it, we enjoy seeing another BW losing credits by getting his planes fried like turkeys, becuase most of the time we're blind as Falmers when it happens.

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 13:07


mikkicd

thank you all for your input...
 some ppl are concerned about fighters etc camping.....solution..AA escort...doesnt cost much...and effective...
a BB v BB is good...ive just gotten an h 39...but doesnt it help a lil bit if i am able to drop 30,000 lbs on it? but if im shot down b4 i get there by AA....

if one reads about militrary history during WW 2...you will understand the role of the DB.....
Spanish civil war...1939...stuka
pearl harbor....midway....
blitzkrieg...(which was utilized by shwarzkopf during desert storm (?)...)


even during the "Battle of the Atlantic"...bombers played a role iby keeping convoys safe from doenitz's U-boats.....

  • Re : CV bashing

    06. 12. 2012 13:17


DeathAddict

Its really ridiciolous and pathetic how most BBs like some have posted here that CVs are ment as "personal" scouts and when they end up dying all they do is either blame the CVs or rage quit. Im not saying everyone proposes the "personal scout" idealism for CVs but it sure looks like Their saying Scouting for BBs and getting shitty exp is better than trying to play like a CV should.

For Starters. CVs are ment as support ships. Scouting for your team more or less usually wins the battle. But BBs also need to pull their weight. No Offense but you can't expect someone to scout for you when they do scout and you die  30 seconds after.

More BBs stay back and wait their marry time as CVs SOMETIMES try to scout. It's always the same thing that they say. "Im not gonna try to rush because I might die." Well Guess what captain obvious CVs also take risks when they put up fighters over enemy territory to scout for you. Im not saying that BBs are bad its just some don't take into consideration how hard it is to scout.(Well at certain times) If you're asking for scoutage then make sure you make good use of it and not waste CVs time trying to scout for wusses.

When CVs fail it's also more noticed as we all know compared to BBs. 6 vs 20. Realistically if one BB fails in your team still has a chance of winning, but if a CV fails theres almost no hope of winning. We should prolly increase the CV limit to 8.

All in All CVs do pull their weight but most of the time(Depending on the CV Player) , BBs dont often.  

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